Oh well, a magazine cover is still a cover.
I've always asked myself how does it feel... i mean being on a public magazine...

the pictures look the same to me... I need more pics for proof though!

aka. show me nudie pics!

I'm in here right now..sounds like someone is a little jealous.

Believe it or not that really is me. I just dyed my hair back to its natural color. If you dont believe, I dont care, I just thought I'd share it with you guys.

Thanks for sharing!!! We're glad you did. Those are some hot pics, that's fo' sho!!!

Its not a big deal for a couple reasons. Firstly did they contact me to inform me of this cover? NO. I had to call in and find out what was going on...since my shoot was way back in sept.. They do not notify anyone of anything. You are left completely in the dark. It was a learning experience for sure because those people at penthouse are just like used carsalespeople. no joke.

It's like that everywhere!!! Trust me. If you sign a contract and they take your picture or shoot a movie or commercial, they can do whatever the hell they want with it. Unless, of course, you have a clause that states you have final approval in any release. but even then, there's times where they completely ignore your final approval clause. And a lot of times the contract is written in a way where your final approval clause is really a bunch of BS anyway. it's just something in there to make you feel better about signing. Welcome to modeling

At least the pics they used of you are super hot. actually, though, I like the pics you posted here better than the done up magazine pics.

You are welcome. But in all honesty they spent 2 hours putting my makeup on...1 hour on hair and hair extensions. I suspect they photoshopped my nose and whole face. So it isnt really me then. Under all that crap I'm there...but the REAL me wasnt enough for them. However the shoot was in Malibu, and Ive never been there before and probably never will...so it was neat in that sense. I got to see some dolphins up close that were on the beach where we shot, so that was fun.

Well they objectify women on the page and off the pages. Something should be done about this. I called a few other magazines yesterday, (maxim, playboy) and they do notify models whenever images are used. So this is not the norm. Yes I signed my life away to them and regret it big time. Welcome to modeling? Goodbye to it after this experience. I was screwed, played a fool. So everyone now is aware what these poor women go through...maybe these magazines wont be so appealing anymore. Thank you for preferring the real me stipped of everything fake. Modeling is very self destructive. No one deserves to base their self worth on their appearance.

You can do all of your shots for us now. And we will give you final approval!!!

BTW those two shots are the only ones out there right now, to my knowledge. The rest of the layout, 7 different sets, has been "banked" "archived"..and they will use them or not, it could be years. And will I know about it??? No closure. Whats worse is I didnt see ANY pics while we shot and they will not send me any pics either. They own me.

You'd be surprised about what they say they'll do for you over the phone and what their contracts obligate them to tell you (and more importantly pay you). Very few up and coming models get residuals from pics. you get paid for the shoot and you're done!! or sometimes you'll get paid for pics every time they're used within 6 months or a year after the shoot then after that they don't hvae to pay you. It all depends. Unfortunately the model doesn't have a lot of control over what they sign. They either sign the form per their terms or you don't book the job.

You don't have to say goodbye to modeling. Just be more selective. Don't be afraid to say no to a job. Most importantly, though. You're never ever allowed to stop posting here. You're much to yummy not to be able to appeciate.

Yeah, that sux big time. You don't usually get to see your proofs. The editors don't care. They just want to put together the layout and be done. The photogs don't care. They just want to get their pics out and get paid. And they sure as hell don't care about the models. They just want to gussy 'em up, abuse your hair and skin and mentality, and sign your check so you get the hell out. Fun, isn't it?"

I did some work for the sears catalog years ago and not only did I never see the proofs, I never even was able to find the ads... there are just too many catalogs to keep up with. So I have a blank page in my portfolio.

However, there were some catalogs I shot for where they sent me the catalog I was featured in after the printing was complete. So it really just depends on the company doing the layouts and sometimes the clout of your agent.

Wow. That is completely unethical. This whole industry is at the zenith of capitalism. You as the photographer and me as the model are alienated from our products. Makes me want to play art director. lol. I got into modeling about 7 years ago as a fine art model for school . Then somehow I found onemodelplace.com and had my own portfolio site under my modeling name "heatheron". Let me tell you the internet modeling world is even more despicable.But I always wanted to do the commercial shooting hoping it was more fair but you opened my eyes to the truth with that one. I think I still have a portfolio up on musecube..do you have a portfolio anywhere online?

Nah. I'm kinda outta the game, really. It was more of a hobby than a career for me. for guys the awkward modeling age is about 13-18. I didn't really get a lot of jobs during that time. when I was 19 it was easier to get a job and it paid a little better but it got to not be worth the hassle of auditioning and stuff. You'd kill most of a day for a 3-20 minute audition depending on what was going on and then you'd have to wait the rest of the night for a callback. It was stressful, that's for sure. and it was hard to keep a job and go to school and meet the demands of modeling.

I did pretty well with print modeling, like catalogs and stuff. but for teenage men and slightly older it's mostly based on if you fit in the clothes. They odn't look at you and are like, wow, good jaw, what size do you wear. It's more like, wow, you make our pants look good. Some of the ones who didn't have an attractive face were cropped out at the head.

Okay. Gotta go. have fam dinner plans 2 nights in a row.

PM me if you want.

have a good night

I think that one thing is the picture, and another thing is the person.
When you did the photo set, you were not representing yourself: you were using your body as a model. Your pics, the photoshop work, the different background, the makeup are all parts of an object: the final result. And you're not it.

So you didn't sign your life away to them, but only some pics. Your life is still yours.
Imho, of course.

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I did not say I did not believe you. I was amazed that the person in the pic is the same one posting on RMM. I have a friend who works in the Magazine industry in Australia and I know how much they photoshop pics where to the point they can make you look very very different!

Bobaloo, How dare you doubt her? She's Bondi Approved™ !!! Perhaps she's too good to be believed, but I, for one, have no doubts about whether she is 'ligit." Of course she could post an image with "Bondi Approved™" written across her lovely bosom...then Bondi would have another for his sig file.

sorry hun i dont have any reason to be jealous. envy is not my thing. thanks tho

agreed. 100%

I am definitely into real...Thanks for joining RMM.

I like the way edave thinks!!!

I enjoyed connecting with you on in's /out's of the industry. I plan on calling penthouse EVERY month and checking in to see if any other pics were used. The vice president of advertising said "that would be annoying" if a model called to check on pics. But you know what? Fuck them! I am going to annoy them. That is my revenge and maybe it will make a difference.

Hell yea. for keeping it real.

Oh and Happy Mother's Day everyone. I am off to visit my inspiring mama. I love her sooo much! what did everyone do for their mamas?

My mom lives far away, I sent her some scrapbooking stuff and we all got her cards,


My husband got me a Ring in HI of a Hawiian flower with some diamonds around it and I am taking my boys to the carnival today.

Yeah. It was nice chatting with you. I would have stayed and written longer, but I was already running late for family dinner plans.

I hope everything goes the way you hope for. It's a tricky market out there, but it can also be pretty rewarding if you have the right attitude, which it seems like you do. I don't really have any strong connections anymore, I'd be surprised if my agents even remember my name by now. but if you ever have an audition in the Chicago market, let me know. I'll see if I can dig up some old numbers.

Who would've ever thought that would happen?

Not me, and not in a million years!

"Snakes on a Plane*"














*Def. #1 ( http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?...akes+on+a+plane )

nice use of the UD

Thanks alot.

Ignore that Bondi clown hun....he's all talk....you know...making up for his shortcummings.....














psst bondi......

Sorry, Hun, It has nothing to do with you. We both think your absolutely gorgeous. (Oops, I shouldn't speak for Bondi! ) Oh and Bondi would still love a pic with "Bondi Approved™" written accross your lovely melons. (Oops, There I go,speaking for Bondi! )

how in the HELL do I miss these threads.
Anyway, in conclusion, DY you are hot and more importantly you are Gnappster approved. It's like bondi approved except it's good.

P.S. more pics please!

That is all®

Did I say, "Snakes...?" Bondi getting shit for something he did not do or mean.

Hi Damn

Oh DY you misunderstand! I was just joking how never in a million years would I have thought I'd be agreeing with Evade!!! haha

I joke 99% of the time but never about the sexiness of the females who post on RMM!

Honey... you are;

Bondi Approved ™



Pay... I have had sex this week!

and to borrow a trademark

That is all ®

[quote=bondiguy,May 19 2006, 12:18 AM]
Oh DY you misunderstand! I was just joking how never in a million years would I have thought I'd be agreeing with Evade!!! haha

I joke 99% of the time but never about the sexiness of the females who post on RMM!

Honey... you are;

Bondi Approved ™
Pay... I have had sex with week!

and to borrow a trademark

That is all ®



sex with week? is that a boyfriend?, was he good?

Good For You!!!

But I thought that was called "....helping the sheep over the fence."

Hey Damnyankee, Ready for the weekend?
Hope to see new post or pics

Bondi has already reminded me that it is the Kiwi's who have these starnge habits...
I was looking for a cartoon joke on that one but failed I did find this, however"

An Australian was walking down a country road in New Zealand, when he happened to glance over the fence and see a farmer shagging a sheep.
The Aussie is quite taken aback by this, so he climbs the fence and walks over to the farmer. He taps him on the shoulder and says, 'You know mate, back home, we shear those!'
The New Zealander looks frantically around and says, 'I'm not bloody SHEARING this with no one!'

Pay that's the Kiwi's who shag sheep.... so close but no cigar!!!

Evade very funny joke

Looks close on a map maybe...Isn't NZ about 1000 miles from Oz?


Sort of like: In the eastern US if you ask someone about how far it is to the next city, he or she will give you an answer in miles.

If you ask someone from Texas or any of the other south western states...he or she will give you an answer in hours.

Evade I am not sure of the exact distance but that would be close I'd imagane; 1600km.

It is a 3 hour plane flight from Sydney

Isn't that the exact same distance?

Close enough...Somewhere in the South Pacific....

1 Km ~.6mi

I went looking for this magazine down in the local magazing, news, and tobacco shoppe, but all the pages were stuck together. Bobaloo had gotten there first and drooled all over them...at least I think it was drool.