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diane26
What do you think of legalizing prostitution??

I am for it, I know the tax issue would be a big deal cause most pay cash but if ran through the Brothel Houses like in Nevada that couls really keep an eye on things, and they are very clean and strict about things.

I have never understood how woman can go to jail for getting money for sex but she could sleep with someone for a gift card and that would be legal.
natalie
QUOTE(diane26 @ Apr 11 2006, 05:24 PM)
What do you think of legalizing prostitution??

I am for it, I know the tax issue would be a big deal cause most pay cash but if ran through the Brothel Houses like in Nevada that couls really keep an eye on things, and they are very clean and strict about things.

I have never understood how woman can go to jail for getting money for sex but she could sleep with someone for a gift card and that would be legal.
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I agree with you Diane. I woman's body is hers to do what she will and as long as no one is forcing her or pressuring her than fine. Oh and as long as she is smart about it too. The funny thing is we have a panel of woman who were prostitutes at one time who became certified researchers. They did a lot of research on the issue and have been trying to legalize it every since. If anyone should know whether it would be a good idea it would be them.
foxy lady
I have no problem with it being legalized either, I'm with Nat on this one, as long as it's a decision THE WOMAN is making........and why should they get it for free?! tongue.gif
Bobaloo
QUOTE(foxy lady @ Apr 11 2006, 06:07 PM)
I have no problem with it being legalized either, I'm with Nat on this one, as long as it's a decision THE WOMAN is making........and why should they get it for free?! tongue.gif
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Okay, I think, given the liberal nature of this site, that we'll have lots of the same answers and this thread may die pretty quick. What if you played devil's advocate and came up with arguments against it. Disease is pretty obvious. But do you think there'd be moral decay within society? Do you picture a woman ever having the respect of a husband or any man if they know she worked as a prostitute. It'd be a pretty difficult transition, I think, for society to make. also, would you want your daughter to aspire to be a prostitute or your son's or daughter's first time to be with a prostitute? Can you imagine if your first time how it would be differerent if it were in fact with someone you didn't know and paid? What if a girl really wanted to be a prostitute her whole life because her mom is and that's all she knows? Would you vote for a president who got through college by working as a prostitute? (male prostitute or female president, take your pick)

I'm not really sure if I'd be for or against it, really. I can think of great arguments on both sides of the issue. Just wanted to throw some of that out there.
Gnappster
QUOTE(Bobaloo @ Apr 11 2006, 04:14 PM)
Okay,  I think, given the liberal nature of this site, that we'll have lots of the same answers and this thread may die pretty quick.  What if you played devil's advocate and came up with arguments against it.  Disease is pretty obvious.  But do you think there'd be moral decay within society?  Do you picture a woman ever having the respect of a husband or any man if they know she worked as a prostitute.  It'd be a pretty difficult transition, I think, for society to make. also, would you want your daughter to aspire to be a prostitute or your son's or daughter's first time to be with a prostitute?  Can you imagine if your first time how it would be differerent if it were in fact with someone you didn't know and paid?  What if a girl really wanted to be a prostitute her whole life because her mom is and that's all she knows?  Would you vote for a president who got through college by working as a prostitute?  (male prostitute or female president, take your pick)

I'm not really sure if I'd be for or against it, really.  I can think of great arguments on both sides of the issue.  Just wanted to throw some of that out there.
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I also wouldn't want them to be a lawyer or politician either, but that's legal lol.
Isaac_Putin
QUOTE(diane26 @ Apr 11 2006, 05:24 PM)
What do you think of legalizing prostitution??

I am for it, I know the tax issue would be a big deal cause most pay cash but if ran through the Brothel Houses like in Nevada that couls really keep an eye on things, and they are very clean and strict about things.

I have never understood how woman can go to jail for getting money for sex but she could sleep with someone for a gift card and that would be legal.
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Two reasons against it:

1. It would make it more difficult to combat child prostitution.

2. It would be difficult to determine who was being coerced or forced into prostitution, also.
Gnappster
I just reread diane's post....so if I pay a hooker with a gift card it's legal? I wish I would have known that sooner!
Bobaloo
QUOTE(Gnappster @ Apr 11 2006, 06:19 PM)
I also wouldn't want them to be a lawyer or politician either, but that's legal lol.
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that would be so funny if it weren't true. I know there's a homer quote for this, I'm just too lazy to look for it.

I guess, though, if a person has the desire to whore themselves out for money, I suppose politician or lawyer would be a good career to look into.
Gnappster
QUOTE(Bobaloo @ Apr 11 2006, 04:26 PM)
that would be so funny if it weren't true.  I know there's a homer quote for this, I'm just too lazy to look for it.

I guess, though, if a person has the desire to whore themselves out for money, I suppose politician or lawyer would be a good career to look into.
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well there is an appropriate lionel hutz quote:
"If there's one thing America needs, it's more lawyers.
Can you imagine a world without lawyers? *shudders*"
diane26
I would be for it in the Form of the Prositition Houses, I watched a show last night about it and you would be suprised how well the Prostitiution houses are ran, There is one Cowboy something in nevada, and the ladies are given STD Checks weekly and Aids tests monthly, Condoms HAVE to be used there are cameras in the rooms and the rooms must be kepts clean, Morally a woman would be looked down on but no differant than a stripper, you know when you are going into that field the shit you will get. I probably would not be for it for street walking but ran in a place like the Cowboy place and the Bunny Ranch and stuff in nevada I would fully support it.
Bobaloo
QUOTE(Gnappster @ Apr 11 2006, 06:25 PM)
I just reread diane's post....so if I pay a hooker with a gift card it's legal? I wish I would have known that sooner!
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Hmmm. I wonder if we could just swipe it then and there?? confused-smiley-013.gif
Bobaloo
QUOTE(Gnappster @ Apr 11 2006, 06:33 PM)
well there is an appropriate lionel hutz quote:
"If there's one thing America needs, it's more lawyers.        
Can you imagine a world without lawyers? *shudders*"
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Classic. you're good
diane26
QUOTE(Bobaloo @ Apr 11 2006, 03:49 PM)
Hmmm.  I wonder if we could just swipe it then and there?? unsure.gif
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Make it just a visa Gift Card so I cant shop anywhere. Thanks:D
Bobaloo
QUOTE(diane26 @ Apr 11 2006, 06:39 PM)
I would be for it in the Form of the Prositition Houses, I watched a show last night about it and you would be suprised how well the Prostitiution houses are ran, There is one Cowboy something in nevada, and the ladies are given STD Checks weekly and Aids tests monthly, Condoms HAVE to be used there are cameras in the rooms and the rooms must be kepts clean, Morally a woman would be looked down on but no differant than a stripper, you know when you are going into that field the shit you will get. I probably would not be for it for street walking but ran in a place like the Cowboy place and the Bunny Ranch and stuff in nevada I would fully support it.
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Well, what about the fact that HIV incubates for about 6 months before it's detectable? If a girl is applying for a job at the bunny ranch, do they just have her keep the place clean for six months? What if she has a boyfriend or wants to do some sidejobs outside the scope of the camera? I know there's lots of jobs with other hazards and stuff. I'm just throwing this stuff out there.
diane26
QUOTE(Bobaloo @ Apr 11 2006, 03:51 PM)
Well, what about the fact that HIV incubates for about 6 months before it's detectable?  If a girl is applying for a job at the bunny ranch, do they just have her keep the place clean for six months?  What if she has a boyfriend or wants to do some sidejobs outside the scope of the camera?  I know there's lots of jobs with other hazards and stuff.  I'm just throwing this stuff out there.
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Well same could be applied period, they have to use condoms and there is no sure fire protection except to abstain and every person will have to know that so allthough they take steps to try and prevent things, there will never be a guarntee, I am going into nursing and there is no guarntee someone I have to work on won't have aids and I wont get stuck and so forth and so on.

Nothing can be guarnteed and the best we can do is try and protect ourselves. I think having these houses would be so much better than the street walkers that are getting raped and killed and this and that, in one of these places they will have protection they won't have alone on the streets or working for a pimp.
Bobaloo
QUOTE(diane26 @ Apr 11 2006, 06:55 PM)
Well same could be applied period, they have to use condoms and there is no sure fire protection except to abstain and every person will have to know that so allthough they take steps to try and prevent things, there will never be a guarntee, I am going into nursing and there is no guarntee someone I have to work on won't have aids and I wont get stuck and so forth and so on.

Nothing can be guarnteed and the best we can do is try and protect ourselves. I think having these houses would be so much better than the street walkers that are getting raped and killed and this and that, in one of these places they will have protection they won't have alone on the streets or working for a pimp.
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All good points!!! grinning-smiley-003.gif

Do you think this could all be attained and still be affordable?? I don't picture it being major competition for streetwalkers.
Gnappster
QUOTE(Bobaloo @ Apr 11 2006, 05:01 PM)
All good points!!!  grinning-smiley-003.gif

Do you think this could all be attained and still be affordable??  I don't picture it being major competition for streetwalkers.
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Not sure but I bet it would still be cheaper than a date!
Bobaloo
QUOTE(Gnappster @ Apr 11 2006, 07:03 PM)
Not sure but I bet it would still be cheaper than a date!
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Hello!! I just mentioned my date in my previous post. Hence streetwalkers!!! oh, I mean, um, well, you know. vote quimby
diane26
QUOTE(Bobaloo @ Apr 11 2006, 04:01 PM)
All good points!!!  grinning-smiley-003.gif

Do you think this could all be attained and still be affordable??  I don't picture it being major competition for streetwalkers.
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Well it would be know 20 dollars a hit allthough i don't know the going rate for sex LOL Costs my husband a lot. tongue.gif


But anyway from what I understand is the ladies make there own price and they house gets a percantage for providing the rooms security and all that much like a strip club, I am sure you would have nicer places than others to suit differant price ranges but as long as the standards are the same than it should all be good, I doubt security would be hard to find, and cameras would be a must and stuff but you get what you pay for so you can go to the run down hoe house in MLK Blvd.. **somfan should know the great area that is** lol or you can have the high roller one in Beverly Hills.


But I would surely be for these, not for me but I will never understand how anyone has the right to mandate who and why a person has sex is consenting and legal age.
Gnappster
QUOTE(Bobaloo @ Apr 11 2006, 05:04 PM)
Hello!!  I just mentioned my date in my previous post.  Hence streetwalkers!!!  oh, I mean, um, well, you know.  vote quimby
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It's cool. Just make sure your "date" isn't a cop. That was a night I won't soon forget.
diane26
QUOTE(Gnappster @ Apr 11 2006, 04:09 PM)
It's cool. Just make sure your "date" isn't a cop. That was a night I won't soon forget.
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I think I have missed a few posts in here better look back coz.gif
Bobaloo
QUOTE(diane26 @ Apr 11 2006, 07:10 PM)
I think I have missed a few posts in here better look back coz.gif
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Ah, I was just board whorin' around. you didn't miss much.

Speaking of board whorin', think they'll legalize that and give us a place to hang out with clean rooms and video cameras and stuff??
diane26
QUOTE(Bobaloo @ Apr 11 2006, 04:15 PM)
Ah, I was just board whorin' around.  you didn't miss much.

Speaking of board whorin', think they'll legalize that and give us a place to hang out with clean rooms and video cameras and stuff??
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We could hope!!

Be back later maybe Adios mi Amigos. love-smiley-077.gif
foxy lady
QUOTE(Bobaloo @ Apr 11 2006, 06:14 PM)
Okay,  I think, given the liberal nature of this site, that we'll have lots of the same answers and this thread may die pretty quick.  What if you played devil's advocate and came up with arguments against it.  Disease is pretty obvious.  But do you think there'd be moral decay within society?  Do you picture a woman ever having the respect of a husband or any man if they know she worked as a prostitute.  It'd be a pretty difficult transition, I think, for society to make. also, would you want your daughter to aspire to be a prostitute or your son's or daughter's first time to be with a prostitute?  Can you imagine if your first time how it would be differerent if it were in fact with someone you didn't know and paid?  What if a girl really wanted to be a prostitute her whole life because her mom is and that's all she knows?  Would you vote for a president who got through college by working as a prostitute?  (male prostitute or female president, take your pick)

I'm not really sure if I'd be for or against it, really.  I can think of great arguments on both sides of the issue.  Just wanted to throw some of that out there.
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Yes there is always a flipside to anything you're right and there are many issues that would be involved to make sure it was a clean and safe practice! As for wanting my son's first time to be with a prostitute, well I know his recent first has been used more than any prostitute out there and there is nothing one can do to stop that.

A prostitute for a politician .....well look at some of their sexual reputations as it is and IMO they would probably be more for the people! But than again, I don't like politics so what do I know nah.gif
rackman
I wouldn't oppose legalization of prostitution. Like many of you have already said, where's the logic in saying you can give it away for free, but you can't charge for it?

I'm actually a bit surprised that most of you seem to be focused on merely making sure that the process were regulated, however (clean, safe, etc.). I heard a great quote a couple of years ago in which a guy said, "It's not the responsibiliity of government to regulate the amount of risk I'm willing to take." This quote was in a different context, but is still applicable here.

I think it should simply be up to the prostitute and the john to decide between themselves what is safe, clean, etc. As long as they're two consenting adults, they should be able to decide about HIV tests, condoms, etc. After all, isn't the fact that they're consenting adults the essence of the argument to legalize prostitution in the first place?
diane26
QUOTE(rackman @ Apr 12 2006, 12:48 PM)
I wouldn't oppose legalization of prostitution.  Like many of you have already said, where's the logic in saying you can give it away for free, but you can't charge for it?

I'm actually a bit surprised that most of you seem to be focused on merely making sure that the process were regulated, however (clean, safe, etc.).  I heard a great quote a couple of years ago in which a guy said, "It's not the responsibiliity of government to regulate the amount of risk I'm willing to take."   This quote was in a different context, but is still applicable here.

I think it should simply be up to the prostitute and the john to decide between themselves what is safe, clean, etc.  As long as they're two consenting adults, they should be able to decide about HIV tests, condoms, etc.  After all, isn't the fact that they're consenting adults the essence of the argument to legalize prostitution in the first place?
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My biggest concern would be safety, meaning cameras in the rooms and to do the Houses not just on the street. I think these other places that require the stuff is good and they run the places its up to them, I would say cleaning and stuff IE: New sheets and stuff like that should be regulated.

When you go to eat at a resteraunt you want to know you are eating in a clean safe enviroment,. At a hospital as well you want precatiouns taken washing of hands and so forth and so on.

So in a place were many bodily fluids are gonna be exchanged there should be regulations to ensure the safety of the next person, Condoms I can imagine to help prevent the spread of disease and unwanted pregnancies, but as far as further testing I would leave that up to whoever.
rackman
QUOTE(diane26 @ Apr 12 2006, 04:22 PM)
My biggest concern would be safety....   ...New sheets and stuff like that should be regulated.

When you go to eat at a resteraunt you want to know you are eating in a clean safe enviroment,. At a hospital as well you want precatiouns taken washing of hands and so forth and so on.

So in a place were many bodily fluids are gonna be exchanged there should be regulations to ensure the safety of the next person, Condoms I can imagine to help prevent the spread of disease and unwanted pregnancies, but as far as further testing I would leave that up to whoever.
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Someone mentioned the "liberal nature of this site" a while back. The funny thing is that this topic is showing where liberal and conservative thinking converge.

The conservatives oppose prostitution because (in their opinion) it's morally wrong. They think they have the obligation (and authority) to prevent people from engaging in stupid behavior.

Liberals may not oppose prostitution in principle, but they'd want to regulate it. Why? Because otherwise, people might get a disease or otherwise suffer negative consequences due to the choices they've made. In other words, they (like the conservatives) want to use the power of government to prevent people from engaging in stupid behavior.

In either case, mature adults are being treated like children who cannot be left to their own devices lest they make bad choices in their lives.

Don't you think it's intellectually inconsistent to say that two people should be allowed to engage in prostitution because they're consenting adults and *simultaneously* treat them like children who are incapable of understanding the consequences of their actions and thus require that they follow government-mandated health and safety protocols?
diane26
QUOTE(rackman @ Apr 12 2006, 04:18 PM)
Someone mentioned the "liberal nature of this site" a while back.  The funny thing is that this topic is showing where liberal and conservative thinking converge.

The conservatives oppose prostitution because (in their opinion) it's morally wrong.  They think they have the obligation (and authority) to prevent people from engaging in stupid behavior.

Liberals may not oppose prostitution in principle, but they'd want to regulate it.  Why?  Because otherwise, people might get a disease or otherwise suffer negative consequences due to the choices they've made.  In other words, they (like the conservatives) want to use the power of government to prevent people from engaging in stupid behavior.

In either case, mature adults are being treated like children who cannot be left to their own devices lest they make bad choices in their lives. 

Don't you think it's intellectually inconsistent to say that two people should be allowed to engage in prostitution because they're consenting adults and *simultaneously* treat them like children who are incapable of understanding the consequences of their actions and thus require that they follow government-mandated health and safety protocols?
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If it were to be legalized and treated as a job than regulations would be set in as jobs have.

Do you think it is wrong that people are required to wash there hands and wear gloves in a facility where cross cantamination can happen??

I am neither a liberal or a conversist or speller if you cant tell.

If I hook up with some and he leaves me some money I dont think I should be arrested. There were always be people out to cheat the system or not obide by the laws, but if they were to legalize it in a JOB FORM since the most important part of it all is Uncle Sam will want his half and like any other job there needs to be rules and regulations for the safty of the employers and customers.

Without Rules and Laws this world would be complete chaos more than it already is.

You already hear about Prostitutes getting murdered all the time, you don't here about it being girls working at the bunny house or for Hiedi Fliess it is the girls left on the streets or in the hands of pimps. As legal working citizens they would have rights just the same as someone else.
Bobaloo
QUOTE(diane26 @ Apr 12 2006, 07:32 PM)
If it were to be legalized and treated as a job than regulations would be set in as jobs have.

Do you think it is wrong that people are required to wash there hands and wear gloves in a facility where cross cantamination can happen??

I am neither a liberal or a conversist or speller if you cant tell.

If I hook up with some and he leaves me some money I dont think I should be arrested. There were always be people out to cheat the system or not obide by the laws, but if they were to legalize it in a JOB FORM since the most important part of it all is Uncle Sam will want his half and like any other job there needs to be rules and regulations for the safty of the employers and customers.

Without Rules and Laws this world would be complete chaos more than it already is.

You already hear about Prostitutes getting murdered all the time, you don't here about it being girls working at the bunny house or for Hiedi Fliess it is the girls left on the streets or in the hands of pimps. As legal working citizens they would have rights just the same as someone else.
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I'm with diane on this one. you can't leave society's fate up to individuals in that soceity. Chaos would ensue. The restaurant is a great example. i know there's a risk that if I eat at a restaurant I may get food poisening, but regulations and laws lessen that risk. without those rules and regulations, no company would take steps for customer safety or well-being if it had a negative effect on the bottom line. Legalization would open the door to regulation and at least start closing the door on the negative aspects of the current system. That is not to say that all immoral acts or things or jobs or whatever should be legalized just to impose regulations for the sake of controlling the immorality. I'm not even really sure if I think prostitution should be legalized. I'm just saying that legalizing could be a means to address a problem and spread understanding and knowledge about that problem.

actually, I don't know what the hell I'm saying. I'm going to go back to one of the threads that has some boobs in it.
diane26
QUOTE(Bobaloo @ Apr 12 2006, 06:18 PM)
I'm with diane on this one.  you can't leave society's fate up to individuals in that soceity.  Chaos would ensue.  The restaurant is a great example.  i know there's a risk that if I eat at a restaurant I may get food poisening, but regulations and laws lessen that risk.  without those rules and regulations, no company would take steps for customer safety or well-being if it had a negative effect on the bottom line.  Legalization would open the door to regulation and at least start closing the door on the negative aspects of the current system.  That is not to say that all immoral acts or things or jobs or whatever should be legalized just to impose regulations for the sake of controlling the immorality.  I'm not even really sure if I think prostitution should be legalized.  I'm just saying that legalizing could be a means to address a problem and spread understanding and knowledge about that problem. 

actually, I don't know what the hell I'm saying.  I'm going to go back to one of the threads that has some boobs in it.
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I love these kinds of threads. smilio05.gif
natalie
QUOTE(diane26 @ Apr 12 2006, 04:22 PM)
My biggest concern would be safety, meaning cameras in the rooms and to do the Houses not just on the street. I think these other places that require the stuff is good and they run the places its up to them, I would say cleaning and stuff IE: New sheets and stuff like that should be regulated.

When you go to eat at a resteraunt you want to know you are eating in a clean safe enviroment,. At a hospital as well you want precatiouns taken washing of hands and so forth and so on.

So in a place were many bodily fluids are gonna be exchanged there should be regulations to ensure the safety of the next person, Condoms I can imagine to help prevent the spread of disease and unwanted pregnancies, but as far as further testing I would leave that up to whoever.
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Unfortunately as hard as a restaurant may try if you go out to eat it is a lot less sanitary than you might think. tongue.gif
natalie
QUOTE(rackman @ Apr 12 2006, 07:18 PM)
Someone mentioned the "liberal nature of this site" a while back.  The funny thing is that this topic is showing where liberal and conservative thinking converge.

The conservatives oppose prostitution because (in their opinion) it's morally wrong.  They think they have the obligation (and authority) to prevent people from engaging in stupid behavior.

Liberals may not oppose prostitution in principle, but they'd want to regulate it.  Why?  Because otherwise, people might get a disease or otherwise suffer negative consequences due to the choices they've made.  In other words, they (like the conservatives) want to use the power of government to prevent people from engaging in stupid behavior.

In either case, mature adults are being treated like children who cannot be left to their own devices lest they make bad choices in their lives. 

Don't you think it's intellectually inconsistent to say that two people should be allowed to engage in prostitution because they're consenting adults and *simultaneously* treat them like children who are incapable of understanding the consequences of their actions and thus require that they follow government-mandated health and safety protocols?
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I don;t know there are a lot of really stupid people in this world. laughing-smiley-017.gif We say that someone is mature enough to drive which is in effect driving a weapon because it can kill and yet we regulate their speed, where they park, how long they park, if their car is damaged and make sure they don't drink and drive. As much as we use the term "adult" many of us are still children. So yes I think the gov, employer, whoever should regulate things. Being an audult has nothing to do with age.
Bobaloo
QUOTE(natalie @ Apr 13 2006, 02:52 PM)
Unfortunately as hard as a restaurant may try if you go out to eat it is a lot less sanitary than you might think. tongue.gif
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Natalie is absolutely right. I used to work at a restaurant and all kinds of interesting things happened there. I learned a lot of Spanish, though.
natalie
LOL I just saw all you boys lurking in here and I bet it was because you thought I was posting a pic wasn't it. Well if it was sorry no luck but if it wasn't I'll spank myself for being so vain. laughing-smiley-017.gif
diane26
QUOTE(natalie @ Apr 13 2006, 11:52 AM)
Unfortunately as hard as a restaurant may try if you go out to eat it is a lot less sanitary than you might think. tongue.gif
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Yes I know I worked in the food industry before and Childcare and i wont even get into how messed up that one is.
Gnappster
QUOTE(natalie @ Apr 13 2006, 01:04 PM)
LOL I just saw all you boys lurking in here and I bet it was because you thought I was posting a pic wasn't it. Well if it was sorry no luck but if it wasn't I'll spank myself for being so vain. laughing-smiley-017.gif
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I'll "spank" myself as well imagining that one jerkit.gif

I've worked in restaurants and one always got top reviews fromt he health board as well as one of the best restaurant/lounges of the franchise in Canada(I won't say where I worked) and a lot of crazy shit went down in the kitchen. Nothing like someone intentionally spitting or putting other bodily fluids in someones food but crazy none the less.

One time, somehow a bandaid wound up in someone's pizza. I couldn't even imagine finding that in my food. Anyway the manager comes storming into the back and he says while holding up the bandaid in question, "WHO THE HELL IS WEARING A BANDAID?!" and this one funny fucker pipes up "Well not anymore". I just about lost it laughing right there.
Bobaloo
QUOTE(Gnappster @ Apr 13 2006, 03:50 PM)
I'll "spank" myself as well imagining that one  jerkit.gif

I've worked in restaurants and one always got top reviews fromt he health board as well as one of the best restaurant/lounges of the franchise in Canada(I won't say where I worked) and a lot of crazy shit went down in the kitchen. Nothing like someone intentionally spitting or putting other bodily fluids in someones food but crazy none the less.

One time, somehow a bandaid wound up in someone's pizza. I couldn't even imagine finding that in my food. Anyway the manager comes storming into the back and he says while holding up the bandaid in question, "WHO THE HELL IS WEARING A BANDAID?!" and this one funny fucker pipes up "Well not anymore". I just about lost it laughing right there.
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"Sorry. The band-aid was holding the finger nail on."
Bobaloo
QUOTE(natalie @ Apr 13 2006, 03:04 PM)
LOL I just saw all you boys lurking in here and I bet it was because you thought I was posting a pic wasn't it. Well if it was sorry no luck but if it wasn't I'll spank myself for being so vain. laughing-smiley-017.gif
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Well, I probably wasn't lurking but just clicked in here last before I got busy at work... again. But I'm always looking for pics of you, if you really want to know. In any case, I do hope to see some pics of you spanking yourself 2thumbs.gif
Gnappster
QUOTE(Bobaloo @ Apr 13 2006, 02:24 PM)
"Sorry.  The band-aid was holding the finger nail on."
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closeup
QUOTE(Gnappster @ Apr 11 2006, 06:25 PM)
I just reread diane's post....so if I pay a hooker with a gift card it's legal? I wish I would have known that sooner!
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You finally have something you can redeem your S&H Green Stamps for! I also have never heard of anyone paying for a hooker with a gift card. Next thing you know, they'll start using punch cards like all the coffee places: Buy 9 blowjobs, get the tenth one FREE. I've read different articles for and against legal prostitution, and I'm leaning towards keeping it illegal. It doesn't need to be an arresting offense, maybe just a fine or community service.
belicked6924
QUOTE(natalie @ Apr 13 2006, 01:52 PM)
Unfortunately as hard as a restaurant may try if you go out to eat it is a lot less sanitary than you might think. tongue.gif
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Want proof? Watch the movie "Waiting", laughing-smiley-014.gif laughing-smiley-014.gif laughing-smiley-014.gif
diane26
QUOTE(closeup @ Apr 13 2006, 03:39 PM)
You finally have something you can redeem your S&H Green Stamps for! I also have never heard of anyone paying for a hooker with a gift card. Next thing you know, they'll start using punch cards like all the coffee places: Buy 9 blowjobs, get the tenth one FREE. I've read different articles for and against legal prostitution, and I'm leaning towards keeping it illegal. It doesn't need to be an arresting offense, maybe just a fine or community service.
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I have never heard of paying a hooker with a gift card either BUT if you did it would not be illegal because it was a gift and no money was exchanging hands. That was the point being made.
Lynette
QUOTE(natalie @ Apr 13 2006, 02:58 PM)
I don;t know there are a lot of really stupid people in this world. laughing-smiley-017.gif  We say that someone is mature enough to drive which is in effect driving a weapon because it can kill and yet we regulate their speed, where they park, how long they park, if their car is damaged and make sure they don't drink and drive. As much as we use the term "adult" many of us are still children. So yes I think the gov, employer, whoever should regulate things. Being an audult has nothing to do with age.
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I agree that we ARE all still basically children at various levels of maturity, However I draw the line at a church official, politician, or even a spouse dictating what they believe is best for me. I've known a few state politicians, and believe me when I say that I consider myself to be at a much more developed state of maturity that 90% of them. True, the games they play can be rather sophisticated, and they must have, or be able to aquire a great sense of organization in order to succes at what they do. However, they're all still just "playing office" and about as insecure and transparently phoney as human beings can be. THIS, is NOT the type of person I want telling me what's best for me. Heck, they don't even know what's best for themseleves. As far as religious leaders go... Forget it! They're generally as narrow-minded as a person can be, they allow a single belief dominate every aspect of their lives. Sorry, but I just can't get behind that type of thought process, there's way too much related to the concept of why we're here and living life to be that inflexable.
Nope! I'm afraid until something better than what we have now comes along, I'll be content to make my own decisions regarding my life and which way I choose to live it. Government should NEVER attempt to ledgislate morality. History shows that only bad things happen when it does.
By the way, When IS the civil war in the states supposed to begin? From the sound of the world news media (news aired overseas), it maybe anythime. LOL!
diane26
QUOTE(Lynette @ Apr 15 2006, 11:17 AM)
I agree that we ARE all still basically children at various levels of maturity, However I draw the line at a church official, politician, or even a spouse dictating what they believe is best for me. I've known a few state politicians, and believe me when I say that I consider myself to be at a much more developed state of maturity that 90% of them. True, the games they play can be rather sophisticated, and they must have, or be able to aquire a great sense of organization in order to succes at what they do. However, they're all still just "playing office" and about as insecure and transparently phoney as human beings can be. THIS, is NOT the type of person I want telling me what's best for me. Heck, they don't even know what's best for themseleves. As far as religious leaders go... Forget it! They're generally as narrow-minded as a person can be, they allow a single belief dominate every aspect of their lives. Sorry, but I just can't get behind that type of thought process, there's way too much related to the concept of why we're here and living life to be that inflexable.
     Nope! I'm afraid until something better than what we have now comes along, I'll be content to make my own decisions regarding my life and which way I choose to live it. Government should NEVER attempt to ledgislate morality. History shows that only bad things happen when it does.
By the way, When IS the civil war in the states supposed to begin? From the sound of the world news media (news aired overseas), it maybe anythime. LOL!

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Would you say it is Morally wrong to kill someone?? To rape someone?? Morally wrong to molest a child?? These are laws based on moral decisions and thankfully they are there.


I have no idea what you are talking about the civil war beggining coz.gif
natalie
QUOTE(diane26 @ Apr 15 2006, 02:36 PM)
Would you say it is Morally wrong to kill someone?? To rape someone?? Morally wrong to molest a child?? These are laws based on moral decisions and thankfully they are there.
I have no idea what you are talking about the civil war beggining coz.gif
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And we weren't talking about morality, more like safety and health issues being overseen.
diane26
QUOTE(natalie @ Apr 15 2006, 11:42 AM)
And we weren't talking about morality, more like safety and health issues being overseen.
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Yes this is correct because morality alone the vote would probably not allow it. We all know how faithful those politicians are;)

But yes it is more making sure safety and health is overseen like in most aspects of our living anyway. grinning-smiley-003.gif

I will be the first to say I don't agree with out Justice system I think it has many many flaws but all in all I am surely glad it is there rather than not.
natalie
And no offence to Lynette but let's not make this like the topless beach thread 'cause one heavy topic thread is enough for a place like rmm. Puhleaze. lol. ph34r.gif
diane26
QUOTE(natalie @ Apr 15 2006, 11:49 AM)
And no offence to Lynette but let's not make this like the topless beach thread 'cause one heavy topic thread is enough for a place like rmm. Puhleaze. lol. ph34r.gif
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nah.gif I live for these heavy topics. LOL I got heavy boobs to deal with daily love-smiley-077.gif
Lynette
Morally? Hmmm. I believe it to be more a question of common sense. Everything we do in this life is directly related to every other thing we do. Consequently, if we do something bad... it will come back on us, and visa=versa. It's more a question of basic right and wrong. I don't think we really need some four thousand year old stone tablets to tell us right from wrong. Again, common sense has to always be the deciding factor in governing people's actions. There will always be people who violate the basic laws of nature (morality or whatever). The bible, man's laws, etc, hasn't stopped the rapists, child molesters, murderers, and the rest yet (throughtout the entire history of man on this earth). Do you really need politicians or religious leaders to tell you that these things are wrong? The original laws regarding these criminal actions were instituted to act as punishment, not preventatives.
natalie
QUOTE(Lynette @ Apr 15 2006, 02:55 PM)
Morally? Hmmm. I believe it to be more a question of common sense. Everything we do in this life is directly related to every other thing we do. Consequently, if we do something bad... it will come back on us, and visa=versa. It's more a question of basic right and wrong. I don't think we really need some four thousand year old stone tablets to tell us right from wrong. Again, common sense has to always be the deciding factor in governing people's actions. There will always be people who violate the basic laws of nature (morality or whatever). The bible, man's laws, etc, hasn't stopped the rapists, child molesters, murderers, and the rest yet (throughtout the entire history of man on this earth). Do you really need politicians or religious leaders to tell you that these things are wrong? The original laws regarding these criminal actions were instituted to act as punishment, not preventatives.
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But in a way that doesn't work either because people can seriously justify in their minds anything. And to them it's commen sense. How do you think they get guys and girls to be suicide bombers? It's not always the religious angle. They come up with "facts" and other such things to make the person believe this is what must be done. What would you suggest the world do Lynette seeing as church and politicians trying to set rules and guidelines is unacceptable? Do you really think 90% of the people out there would be responsible or use their "commen sense"?
Come on now I'm no cheerleader for church or state but unless you have a plan that's feesable then I'd say let the whole "they can't tell me what to do they don't know anything and are corrupt" thing die.
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