Hmmm I am not talking about the ten comandments here allthough commen sense and morality seem to go hand in hand.

Laws are based on morality when it comes down to it. Not everyone has Commen Sense nor Morals therefor there are laws in place to make sure we all know them and no there are consequences. WIthout these there would be chaos. I may not agree with religion in every aspect of it. I have my own beliefs in God and do not think the bible is his word. But I have to be thankful so many people believe in something more than themselves. I think it is that which stops them from doing other things knowing there will be someone or something they will have to answer to in the end.

Every country has there own ideas of commen sense.

Some countries believe if you steal you should loose an arm and that is commen sense, I feel that is a bit extreme and lord knows if that were the case I would have no limbs by age 12. Some believe in vigile ante sp? crimes. We do not. You can pick apart commen sense. But regardless it all goes back to morals. I person with a good sense of morals will not be the ones out there commiting the crimes, when people forget about others and care about only them selves and what there needs are you will see these crimes arrising.

God I must be cranky today lol.

I keep hearing references to "people". Laws are inacted to keep "people" from committing crimes. Who ARE these people? Could it be we're talking about the very "people" who ARE committing, and WILL commit these crimes? Guess what? "People" who these laws are aimed at are STILL committing these crimes. These laws have NOT detoured these types of crimes at all. Maybe you're worried about your average, everyday, law-abiding citizen waking up one morning an deciding to go next door and rape his neighbor's daughter? I really don't think it works that way. My point was that laws alone aren't the answer. They haven't eliminated or slowe the problem yet. The "people" have predispositions to commit violent crimes...will! There has always has been an evil, criminal element in this word with regard to humanity, and unfortunately, I'm afraid there always will be. If we can't teach people from birth to police themselves out of a sense of right and wrong (or morality, if you will), then there doesn't seem to be much hope. After all, your conscience should alway be your guide.

Almost evrything you say is redundant. How they hell would you know that laws haven't detoured "people" from crimes? Do you know how many weren't committed because of the consequences the law has in place? No of course not because they weren't committed. You say that laws haven't stopped "people" from committing wrongful acts. NO FRWEAKIN D"UH! Laws weren't put in place so that no crime would happen but as a consequence for the "people" who do. And ok ok laws alone aren't the answer and if everyone actually listened to their conscience it would be great. Not everyone's conscience is going to be the same. A conscience is molded by your beliefs, experiences, culture ,ect. So the world will forever be flawed, there will forever be corrupt politicains, church goers, leaders, up tight people, eveil and all the rest so unfortunately "people" deal with it and make the best of it you can and be the best person you can.

Ooooooh! Look at the emotion, name calling, and such. If you read any of my statements (through that veil of red) you'll notice that I was referring to the fact that that laws alone will never do it. There are still criminals committing crimes. When we live in a crime-free world I'll concede. We're talking about criminals here! CRIMINALS COMMIT THE CRIMES! THAT'S it!!! Plain and simple. Do you believe the death penatly prevents murderers from committing murder? If so... Then there's no point in continuing this and we should go back to looking at and discussing the merits of one-anothers tits. I never ment to convey the message that laws aren't necessary...They are. But, they (in the state they are in now) thet don't stop crime very well. If this weren't true we'd b converting all the prisons into amusement parks.
BTW, thanks for the ompliments.

WelL I agree wholeheartdley that we should go back to focusing on the important thing...BOOBS! Didn't realize I had stooped to name calling I do apologize for that and......your welcome.

I must have missed the name calling cause I don't see any. As far as laws not preventing crime I disagree with that. It is your OPINION that it doesn't prevent any crimes and that is not a fact it is my OPINION that is not true. I don't think it is strong at prevention but I do think that those laws is what stops us more moral people from commiting certain crimes. Most times we act on emotions and knowing that if we react on that emotion can put us in prision can be that tick that stops us from doing it. There will always be evil yes, I think it is a VERY SMALL number of people predisposed to it though, I think most of it is enviroment, people aren't made evil for the most part but taught to take those measures from what they are taught or how they are treated. I do think though there are a FEW people that are just not born ticking right.

But the biggest thing of all that I think causes crime is people being taught how to be selfish. When we care ONLY about ourself and our own needs we don't care about others and who gets in our way. WHen people as a whole can take more of a stand to care about others and everyone and work as a group not as an idividual I think things would be better.

But back to the point laws are all based on some sort of morality and I would be willing to bet people would much more appreciate the laws being here.

You may well be right Diane. I guess it's just the word "moral" or "marality" that I have an issue with. It suggests some degree of religiousity to me I guess. And, I have never believed that religion should ever have anything to do with the creation of laws. Just my humble opinion.
NOW!!! What the heck do I have to do to get a picture in the "top" list anyway? LOL!

Could be it I don't see morals having to do with religion. All in the way we interpret a word I suppose.


How about posting a new photo?? I don't think I seen you post a new one throw in a sign saying to my Fans of RMM that usually gets good responses.

I agree they love those ones! Hmmm.....why haven't I thought of that before? lol

At the risk of venturing into dangerous waters, my opinion is that our law makers try to cover too many aspects of our lives.

In the UK there are ever increasing realms of legislation covering things such as health and safety, but to an extent which is way beyond the application of common sense. I have no problem with rules which were intended to make safe industrial workplaces, but the trend is spreading into virtually every aspect of life, as our legislators try to take every concievable risk out of life. Partly this is due to the litigous trend which started in the US, where every lawyer is now looking for an opportunity to sue someone, and partly because the rulemakers have found something which allows them endless scope to expand their empires.

At the same time, burgulars are being let off with cautions to save space in prisons, crimes are not being investigated if there is not a 'reasonable' chance of arrest and sentences are too readily reduced for 'good' behaviour.

If you are a motorist, you can get snapped by a speed camera for exceeding the limit by a few mph, get fined and 3 points on your licence - 12 points and you get banned. But if you are an illegal immigrant or living on benefits, you can drive without a licence, insurance, tax, and in the unlikely event you get caught, you will get fined a fraction of the cost of being legal, and most probably given a few hours commnity service.

Our Government is constantly telling us what we can't do, and increasing the list of what that includes, is very efficient at catching, and especially fining, the mainly law-abiding, tax paying, classes, but does damn all about catching the people who destabilise the security that society wants.

So there!

I totally agree with just about everything you just wrote. I think the reason for all that is that there is no money in targeting only bad guys. They hvae to target the good guys who actually will pay the fines. People also have to justify their jobs, especially in the political field. So if you catch 20,000 speeders in a year, you're doing what you can to keep the roads safe. It's actual work to catch real criminals. I know a few people who are police officers in a few different towns. All they talk about is traffic violations. Traffic enforcement is about 80 percent of what all the police departments do. I give police officers a lot of credit... I sure as heck wouldn't want to put myself in that much risk. I just think the government, community, and political efforts are sadly misplaced. What a waste of resources.

I agree about the system the way the laws work and stuff here we have mandatory sentancing on drug offenses ones that are non violent crimes. So you can get busted selling pot a few times and spend many mnay years in prison or caught smoking it yourself growing your own stash and spend many years in prison,

But you can go out get drunk drive and kill a family by driving drunk and get 3-4 years.

You can molest a child and get a few years get out and molest again.

BUT god forbid you smoke a little pot to mellow the fuck out.

Ok so not going to debate why pot should be legal but point is non violent crimes are taking up more room in prisons why violent life altering crimes are getting more chances.

It all seems wacky to me. I say bring back public hanging.

Ever sunday lets meet in town square and watch "dick" get hung for rapping a child. Bet it makes a few in the audieance think twice about raping someone.

The headlines in Maine's largest newspaper were interesting this morning. A twenty year old guy took his fathers' gun, drove to a registered sex offenders house and shot him in the head. Then he drove twenty miles to a guy who had just gotten out of prison for raping a 14 year old girl. Shot him in the head. Got on the bus and headed to Boston. When the cops boarded the bus to arrest him in Boston, he pulled out a .45 and shot himself in the head. I guess if you're intent on killing yourself, might as well take out two dirtbags beforehand.

I don't know why he was so quick to kill himself. Maybe the cops just wanted to give him a couple more addresses

I'll be there with my knitting!! But even if capital punishment is not an option, at least keep the bastards in for their full sentence.

And beat them weekly so they don't get to comfortable. Let the family members cane them.

To bad the one guy couldn't get a medal of honor before hand.

And yes I realize this makes me a hypocrit and it is a hyprocacy I can live with.

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interesting thread turn...gotta agree with a lot of laws being redundant and overbearing but some of the basic ones do deter would be criminals. I would for sure rob banks if there weren't any laws preventing me from doing so. I figure, they've financially molested me for years, time to stick it to da man!

And that is all.

HAHAHAha I would Rob banks, and I would would go around knocking of the sickos which in turn would make me a sicko Im sure but I could handle it.