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diane26
QUOTE(johnny wadd @ Jan 18 2006, 11:32 AM)
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Since the Subject was Afghanistan I would just like to add that I for one do not consider the human garbage that flew two planes into the WTC "soldiers".You have to be human to be a soldier.People feel strongly about Politics these days and thats very understandable . You are way out there if you think animals who fly jets into buildings full of Thousands of innocent people are soldiers.I did not know anyone in those buildings who went to work that morning thinking they were soldiers.I had thought that Afghanistans Gov't at the time was told to hand over these murderers and they told the civilized world to go to hell.This is why our soldiers are over there.I am sorry but To call a murdering terrorist a "soldier" is ridiculous.
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Ummmm I just reread what I wrote and when did I once talk about the suicide bombers. I talked about soilders. Actually Military troops most fresh out of HS fighting got there country.

The people that flew into the trade center were radicals and not soilders by any means. Please do not assume I was meaning someone I wasnt when I clearly stated nothing of the sort.


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"I am sorry but To call a murdering terrorist a "soldier" is ridiculous"
By all means point out where I said this. Thanks and by for now time for class.
johnny wadd
QUOTE(diane26 @ Jan 18 2006, 01:45 PM)
In the same respect the soilders we fight are no different. They do what they signed up for. They fight for there country and listen to there leaders. I hold no ill will towards the regular soilders of other countries we fight. They are doing the same thing our troops our doing. Now the wacky leaders and there partites different story. Same with us as well.
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Ms.Diane I dont wish to fight with a pretty lady like yourself.This thread was about Afghanistan.I can understand your point if you were talking about another arab country .The other country alot of americans disagree about whats going on and If you wrote that You do not agree with this countries policy regarding going to war in the other country I would not have wrote a word.Regarding Afghanistan That country was run by and financed by the same animals who were responsible for 9-11-01.When a country like France is fighting side by side with US forces in Afghanistan you know this is not some bogus war.I just think your argument may be valid when your talking about war with the other country but I cannot see it being valid in this case.Allied forces in Afganistan are killing terrorists ,not soldiers.I apologize if you feel I was attacking you.I'd much rather be looking at your beautiful pictures then talking politics.I did not wish to inflame things.
diane26
Well again I want to clarify I was speaking about soliders in general right here I say COUNTRIES

"In the same respect the soilders we fight are no different. They do what they signed up for. They fight for there country and listen to there leaders. I hold no ill will towards the regular soilders of other countries " because I was speaking of soilders from all around in wars we fight. The men and woman that sign up for there country. I may not agree what they are fighting for b ut that is what they signed up for just like I know many US troops that dont agree with us being in Iraq but they do there job because that is what they signed up for. I am not talking about any extremest group or underground organization radicals or any of that. Just the regular soilders that most countries have that do what they are told and do there job bravely.


Now to ease the tension in here
Ratt
QUOTE(Gnappster @ Jan 19 2006, 12:50 AM)
Hey I don't like Aussie's either, but it is more enjoyable making fun of Americans (ONLY KIDDING! tongue.gif )
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Well Canucks are not much better... smilio04.gif
Ratt
QUOTE(diane26 @ Jan 19 2006, 08:29 AM)
Well again I want to clarify I was speaking about soliders in general right here I say COUNTRIES

"In the same respect the soilders we fight are no different. They do what they signed up for. They fight for there country and listen to there leaders. I hold no ill will towards the regular soilders of other countries " because I was speaking of soilders from all around in wars we fight. The men and woman that sign up for there country. I may not agree what they are fighting for b ut that is what they signed up for just like I know many US troops that dont agree with us being in Iraq but they do there job because that is what they signed up for. I am not talking about any extremest group or underground organization radicals or any of that. Just the regular soilders that most countries have that do what they are told and do there job bravely.
Now to ease the tension in here
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Nice way to ease the tension.
diane26
Yeah I thought so plus barely anyone is reading this thread so they wont be the wiser. laughing-smiley-014.gif
Ratt
QUOTE(diane26 @ Jan 19 2006, 10:54 AM)
Yeah I thought so plus barely anyone is reading this thread so they wont be the wiser. laughing-smiley-014.gif
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Hmmm... feeling tense again... laughing-smiley-017.gif
diane26
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johnny wadd
QUOTE(diane26 @ Jan 18 2006, 11:47 PM)
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You eased my tension.I'm a nice guy and like I wrote your a fine looking lady.I'd rather check out your fine pictures then discuss politics any day of the week.I don't want to be negative with anyone.I am sorry if I got upset about it,this is a touchy subject for me.Sorry I cant show you something to ease your tension but I don't have the balls to do that. smilio12.gif
diane26
It's not a problem I get very passionate about how I feel as do most people we can get back to talking about what we do best here at RMM so I hope I did well at changing the topic. LOL Like I said I have a forum I go to where I can debate my heart out LOL.

Thank you for the wonderful compliments glad you enjoy.
somfan
QUOTE(diane26 @ Jan 18 2006, 04:29 PM)
Well again I want to clarify I was speaking about soliders in general right here I say COUNTRIES

"In the same respect the soilders we fight are no different. They do what they signed up for. They fight for there country and listen to there leaders. I hold no ill will towards the regular soilders of other countries " because I was speaking of soilders from all around in wars we fight. The men and woman that sign up for there country. I may not agree what they are fighting for b ut that is what they signed up for just like I know many US troops that dont agree with us being in Iraq but they do there job because that is what they signed up for. I am not talking about any extremest group or underground organization radicals or any of that. Just the regular soilders that most countries have that do what they are told and do there job bravely.
Now to ease the tension in here
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Thanks Diane for showing that boobs and political discussion do go together.
What a better world it could be!! - Remember: Make Love, not War!!
diane26
Well if you dont hurry up and get over here there might be a war you are only a ferry ride away.
johnny wadd
I check your post and my mouth dropped as I saw a picture of you half naked.this is a really good website.thanks for the peek Ms.Diane 2thumbs.gif
diane26
You are very welcome:)
afraven
Well, as a member of the Air Force, I've had the terrible pleasure of visiting the Middle East on many occasions. Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Afganistan, Qatar, Bahrain, UAE etc. I've been shot at on a few occasions by small arms fire and had some of those bastards on a hill from outside our base launching mortars on our tents, then running away before our security forces could get to them. The way they think is that 1 of their lives is worth 10 American's lives. I know this because I've spoken with many moderate thinking Arab workers on base and they told me this personally. In the Arab world, the man with the biggest stick is the king, point blank, and in order to get them to understand you are serious, you have to basically bitch-slap them regularly. Don't ever feel sorry for me or my military counterparts because we're fighting an unpopular war and get sent away to foreign lands, we raised our right hand and swore to defend the Constitution of the US and to obey the President, so help us God, and we will. No different than a fireman or policeman, only difference is, the military are the "defenders of Democracy", however, we're not the "practicers of it." I love my country and our way of life, and I want it for my daughter and her kids. If it takes turning the entire Middle East region into a sheet of fucking glass from dropping a nuclear weapon on their collective asses to stop this terrorist shit, then so be it! It's a case of Social Darwinism, and in the end, every Arab who dons a Pizza Hut table cloth on their head, wearing a belt ladened with C-4 exposives, deserves to meet Ala before they carry out their dirty deeds. Until you've been there and seen what you're military has seen, the looks of happiness on the Iraqi childrens' faces, reconstruction, schools, markets, and most of all, FREE SPEECH that they'd NEVER had before, you can't speak. If you believe the press, you're sadly misinformed. Fact is, bad news sells more papers and programs than good news does. I'm sorry to have drawn this out, but I feel our country did what it needed to do after 9/11. Afterall, you don't tip-toe into the lions' den, you kick down the door, have your spear ready, scream like a banshie, and say," Where is that son of a bitch!"
Ratt
QUOTE(afraven @ Jan 19 2006, 03:56 PM)
Well, as a member of the Air Force, I've had the terrible pleasure of visiting the Middle East on many occasions. Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Afganistan, Qatar, Bahrain, UAE etc. I've been shot at on a few occasions by small arms fire and had some of those bastards on a hill from outside our base launching mortars on our tents, then running away before our security forces could get to them. The way they think is that 1 of their lives is worth 10 American's lives. I know this because I've spoken with many moderate thinking Arab workers on base and they told me this personally. In the Arab world, the man with the biggest stick is the king, point blank, and in order to get them to understand you are serious, you have to basically bitch-slap them regularly. Don't ever feel sorry for me or my military counterparts because we're fighting an unpopular war and get sent away to foreign lands, we raised our right hand and swore to defend the Constitution of the US and to obey the President, so help us God, and we will. No different than a fireman or policeman, only difference is, the military are the "defenders of Democracy", however, we're not the "practicers of it."  I love my country and our way of life, and I want it for my daughter and her kids. If it takes turning the entire Middle East region into a sheet of fucking glass from dropping a nuclear weapon on their collective asses to stop this terrorist shit, then so be it! It's a case of Social Darwinism, and in the end, every Arab who dons a Pizza Hut table cloth on their head, wearing a belt ladened with C-4 exposives, deserves to meet Ala before they carry out their dirty deeds. Until you've been there and seen what you're military has seen, the looks of happiness on the Iraqi childrens' faces, reconstruction, schools, markets, and most of all, FREE SPEECH that they'd NEVER had before, you can't speak. If you believe the press, you're sadly misinformed. Fact is, bad news sells more papers and programs than good news does. I'm sorry to have drawn this out, but I feel our country did what it needed to do after 9/11. Afterall, you don't tip-toe into the lions' den, you kick down the door, have your spear ready, scream like a banshie, and say," Where is that son of a bitch!"
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Remind me not to piss you off...

Seriously tho... You make some damn valid points. It is good to get some "non-press" information. Thankyou.
Sincerly,
Ratt.
bts34e
QUOTE(afraven @ Jan 19 2006, 02:56 AM)
Well, as a member of the Air Force, I've had the terrible pleasure of visiting the Middle East on many occasions. Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Afganistan, Qatar, Bahrain, UAE etc. I've been shot at on a few occasions by small arms fire and had some of those bastards on a hill from outside our base launching mortars on our tents, then running away before our security forces could get to them. The way they think is that 1 of their lives is worth 10 American's lives. I know this because I've spoken with many moderate thinking Arab workers on base and they told me this personally. In the Arab world, the man with the biggest stick is the king, point blank, and in order to get them to understand you are serious, you have to basically bitch-slap them regularly. Don't ever feel sorry for me or my military counterparts because we're fighting an unpopular war and get sent away to foreign lands, we raised our right hand and swore to defend the Constitution of the US and to obey the President, so help us God, and we will. No different than a fireman or policeman, only difference is, the military are the "defenders of Democracy", however, we're not the "practicers of it."  I love my country and our way of life, and I want it for my daughter and her kids. If it takes turning the entire Middle East region into a sheet of fucking glass from dropping a nuclear weapon on their collective asses to stop this terrorist shit, then so be it! It's a case of Social Darwinism, and in the end, every Arab who dons a Pizza Hut table cloth on their head, wearing a belt ladened with C-4 exposives, deserves to meet Ala before they carry out their dirty deeds. Until you've been there and seen what you're military has seen, the looks of happiness on the Iraqi childrens' faces, reconstruction, schools, markets, and most of all, FREE SPEECH that they'd NEVER had before, you can't speak. If you believe the press, you're sadly misinformed. Fact is, bad news sells more papers and programs than good news does. I'm sorry to have drawn this out, but I feel our country did what it needed to do after 9/11. Afterall, you don't tip-toe into the lions' den, you kick down the door, have your spear ready, scream like a banshie, and say," Where is that son of a bitch!"
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Thank you for this and everything you do. Keep kickin down those doors... love-smiley-077.gif
somfan
QUOTE(afraven @ Jan 18 2006, 11:56 PM)
Well, as a member of the Air Force, I've had the terrible pleasure of visiting the Middle East on many occasions. Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Afganistan, Qatar, Bahrain, UAE etc. I've been shot at on a few occasions by small arms fire and had some of those bastards on a hill from outside our base launching mortars on our tents, then running away before our security forces could get to them. The way they think is that 1 of their lives is worth 10 American's lives. I know this because I've spoken with many moderate thinking Arab workers on base and they told me this personally. In the Arab world, the man with the biggest stick is the king, point blank, and in order to get them to understand you are serious, you have to basically bitch-slap them regularly.

I guess we have the bigger stick for now.

Don't ever feel sorry for me or my military counterparts because we're fighting an unpopular war and get sent away to foreign lands, we raised our right hand and swore to defend the Constitution of the US and to obey the President,

Unfortunately, you are in the unenviable position of obeying a president who
is  himself by several accounts violating the Constitution of the US.


so help us God, and we will. No different than a fireman or policeman, only difference is, the military are the "defenders of Democracy", however, we're not the "practicers of it."  I love my country and our way of life, and I want it for my daughter and her kids. If it takes turning the entire Middle East region into a sheet of fucking glass from dropping a nuclear weapon on their collective asses to stop this terrorist shit, then so be it!

Yes, there were folks like that who were advocating using nuclear weapons against China and Vietnam 35 years ago.  Today we're peddling Kentucky Fried Chicken in both countries.  What political objectives do you really think can be achieved with such extreme measures as the use of nuclear weapons?

It's a case of Social Darwinism,

Speaking of social Darwinism, the self-deluding arrogance of the Bush administration may well lead eventually to much diminished US power in both Asia
and the Middle East.  Other important things are going on in the world while the US is involved in the quagmire of military adventurism in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The Soviet war in Afghanistan was certainly a factor in bringing down the Soviet Union.  And Bush is not raising taxes to finance and "support" the troops.  But coming generations of US taxpayers will be paying the trillions of dollars of war related costs.  BTW, we skipped out on having to pay the remediation costs in Vietnam after that similar debacle.  (Self-interest can sometimes be involved in losing.)



and in the end, every Arab who dons a Pizza Hut table cloth on their head, wearing a belt ladened with C-4 exposives, deserves to meet Ala before they carry out their dirty deeds. Until you've been there and seen what you're military has seen, the looks of happiness on the Iraqi childrens' faces, reconstruction, schools, markets, and most of all, FREE SPEECH that they'd NEVER had before, you can't speak.
[SIZE=7][COLOR=red]Sorry, but we can, and do speak, and I know  veterans who
don't share your view of the situation in that region in its totality.


If you believe the press, you're sadly misinformed. Fact is, bad news sells more papers and programs than good news does. I'm sorry to have drawn this out, but I feel our country did what it needed to do after 9/11. Afterall, you don't tip-toe into the lions' den, you kick down the door, have your spear ready, scream like a banshie, and say," Where is that son of a bitch!"
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bondiguy
QUOTE(jrock8 @ Jan 18 2006, 03:07 AM)
all i have to say on this topic is that your perspective entirely changes when one of your close buddies finds out he's getting sent over for at least a year, probably closer to 18 months...
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Amen to that... War is something so hard to fathom. People always put it in the "It'll never happen to me" category but when it does... the full force is felt
Ratt
QUOTE(bondiguy @ Jan 19 2006, 06:56 PM)
Amen to that... War is something so hard to fathom. People always put it in the "It'll never happen to me" category but when it does... the full force is felt
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Just makes you wish they'd got it right in WW I - The War to End All Wars
Gnappster
I liked the boobie pictures confused-smiley-013.gif
diane26
I guess I will have to take some more cause if I hop in this again it is gonna get very ugly so that is my que to exit stage left.
johnny wadd
QUOTE(diane26 @ Jan 19 2006, 01:49 PM)
I guess I will have to take some more cause if I hop in this again it is gonna get very ugly so that is my que to exit stage left.
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Damn! I was hoping you would calm everyone down again.Your pictures have a calming effect.
Ratt
QUOTE(johnny wadd @ Jan 20 2006, 03:00 AM)
Damn! I was hoping you would calm everyone down again.Your pictures have a calming effect.
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Hmmm...

*hurls insult towards johnny*

See diane? You need to step in again...

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diane26
Sorry boys I am at school cant do nothing right now:(
Ratt
QUOTE(diane26 @ Jan 20 2006, 03:08 AM)
Sorry boys I am at school cant do nothing right now:(
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Oh...

*hurls insult towards diane* laughing-smiley-017.gif just kidding...

*hurls insult towards diane's school...* laughing-smiley-017.gif
johnny wadd
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QUOTE(diane26 @ Jan 19 2006, 02:08 PM)
Sorry boys I am at school cant do nothing right now:(
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Guess I will have to go outside and take out this anger on the first Old Person I walk into.This all could have been avoided if it wasnt for Ms. Diane26 needing an education.Oh well......(you think the thought of me beating up an old lady will make her feel bad?)
Ratt
QUOTE(johnny wadd @ Jan 20 2006, 03:19 AM)
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Guess I will have to go outside and take out this anger on the first Old Person I walk into.This all could have been avoided if it wasnt for Ms. Diane26 needing an education.Oh well......(you think the thought of me beating up an old lady will make her feel bad?)
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Not nice dude. laughing-smiley-017.gif

But she's at school, give her a break.

*hurls insult at old lady outside johnny's place*
johnny wadd
Was worth a try.BTW I am a gentle giant,would never hurt a fly or an old lady. wink.gif
Ratt
QUOTE(johnny wadd @ Jan 20 2006, 03:29 AM)
Was worth a try.BTW I am a gentle giant,would never hurt a fly or an old lady. wink.gif
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gentle giant? I am 5' 8" about 300 lbs... And often called a big teddy bear...
diane26
Damn the man Just damn the man.
johnny wadd
QUOTE(Ratt @ Jan 19 2006, 02:34 PM)
gentle giant? I am 5' 8" about 300 lbs... And often called a big teddy bear...
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I'm 6'4 228 pounds I am gentle and have been called a giant by most people.
johnny wadd
QUOTE(johnny wadd @ Jan 19 2006, 03:53 PM)
I'm 6'4 228 pounds I am gentle and have been called a giant by most people.
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(BTW I can be an ANGRY MONSTER if it will help me see some fine boobage again)
Ratt
QUOTE(diane26 @ Jan 20 2006, 03:37 AM)
Damn the man Just damn the man.
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WTF?
Ratt
QUOTE(johnny wadd @ Jan 20 2006, 05:02 AM)
(BTW I can be an ANGRY MONSTER if it will help me see some fine boobage again)
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*hurls insults at johnny in attempt to make him an ANGRY MONSTER*

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afraven
QUOTE(somfan @ Jan 19 2006, 04:18 AM)
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Right or wrong, no matter what my friend, you back YOUR country!!! Don't fall on the WRONG sword.
johnny wadd
QUOTE(afraven @ Jan 20 2006, 10:01 AM)
Right or wrong, no matter what my friend, you back YOUR country!!! Don't fall on the WRONG sword.
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At least someone else is sane. WASHINGTON, Jan. 19, 2006 — In response to the new Osama bin Laden audiotape threatening MORE ATTACKS against the United States, Homeland Security officials are sending out a bulletin to 18,000 police agencies telling them to review all their intelligence.HELLO!!!!!!! Enough of the Bush is the son of the Devil,He's lowering taxes ,College Professor liberal lecturing Crap . This animal is IN Afghanistan telling us he has these other animals ready to kill us and or families, the more innocent people the better. How is there an argument about this?Will they still be arguing when this Animal kills a million people?I suggest a peace mission by anyone who volunteers to go to pakistan-Afghanistan and go make peace with these monsters.See how long you keep your heads.bang.gif I am sorry for the Rant but In light of this tape coming out I just dont see what the argument is about.
Ratt
QUOTE(johnny wadd @ Jan 20 2006, 11:23 PM)
At least someone else is sane. WASHINGTON, Jan. 19, 2006 — In response to the new Osama bin Laden audiotape threatening MORE ATTACKS against the United States, Homeland Security officials are sending out a bulletin to 18,000 police agencies telling them to review all their intelligence.HELLO!!!!!!! Enough of the Bush is the son of the Devil,He's lowering taxes ,College Professor liberal lecturing Crap . This animal is IN Afghanistan telling us he has these other animals ready to kill us and or families, the more innocent people the better. How is there an argument about this?Will they still be arguing when this Animal kills a million people?I suggest a peace mission by anyone who volunteers to go to pakistan-Afghanistan and go make peace with these monsters.See how long you keep your heads.bang.gif I am sorry for the Rant but In light of this tape coming out I just dont see what the argument is about.
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In light of these tapes I am certain of only one thing. Osama bin Laden must be stopped, and all those men and women of ALL nationalities trying to stop him doing his foul work should be looked up to.

I realise that people may look at what I have written in this thread and think I have done a complete backflip with my opinion - that is not the case. I have always wanted Osama brought to Justice. I just also to see these things discussed.

Ratt.
diane26
QUOTE(afraven @ Jan 20 2006, 06:01 AM)
Right or wrong, no matter what my friend, you back YOUR country!!! Don't fall on the WRONG sword.
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For the love of god you can back your country and still speak your mind about what you think is wrong. Isnt that what makes america well america??? We can do that. We dont have to agree with the war to support our troops.

Bleck WHY THE HELL DO I EVEN LOOK IN HERE!!

Need to study exam in 2 hours and it is not on politics. nah.gif
Vlad
QUOTE(johnny wadd @ Jan 18 2006, 02:32 PM)
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Since the Subject was Afghanistan I would just like to add that I for one do not consider the human garbage that flew two planes into the WTC "soldiers".You have to be human to be a soldier.People feel strongly about Politics these days and thats very understandable . You are way out there if you think animals who fly jets into buildings full of Thousands of innocent people are soldiers.I did not know anyone in those buildings who went to work that morning thinking they were soldiers.I had thought that Afghanistans Gov't at the time was told to hand over these murderers and they told the civilized world to go to hell.This is why our soldiers are over there.I am sorry but To call a murdering terrorist a "soldier" is ridiculous.
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Human Garbage?
Look I've read this thread and what I can tell, you are nothing but an american patriot. Well good for you. But don't ever talk shit about soldiers of any breed. Because I could list human garbage that was american born and raised till I'm short on breath.

A soldier is one who fights for their country and beliefs. If taking planes and crashing them into the WTC was a mission, then it was preformed with valour and it was successful.

Your entire army is a terrorist organization. You are trained to kill and that's all. Your slogans are "kill kill kill"
You invaded a country under false accusations of weapons of mass destruction and thousands suffer daily from the United States being in Iraq.
The threat of death is just as high (if not higher) with US presence in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Now I'm not here to just bash the US or anything. But I can't just stand by and let someone believe they are right in what they say. Hypocrisy and irony is a very strong trait I notice far too often in Americans.

Iraqi soldiers are just as brave and great as the US army soldiers. Each fights for what they believe in and die for what they follow. Don't ever disrespect another soldier in this thread again or I'll let my tongue lash out on the rampant idiocy you spout.
It's fine to be proud of who you are. But don't ever speak ill of any fighter. Ally or enemy.

Winston Churchill said "when you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite."
diane26
QUOTE(Vlad @ Jan 20 2006, 11:38 AM)
Human Garbage?
Look I've read this thread and what I can tell, you are nothing but an american patriot. Well good for you. But don't ever talk shit about soldiers of any breed. Because I could list human garbage that was american born and raised till I'm short on breath.

A soldier is one who fights for their country and beliefs. If taking planes and crashing them into the WTC was a mission, then it was preformed with valour and it was successful.

Your entire army is a terrorist organization. You are trained to kill and that's all. Your slogans are "kill kill kill"
You invaded a country under false accusations of weapons of mass destruction and thousands suffer daily from the United States being in Iraq.
The threat of death is just as high (if not higher) with US presence in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Now I'm not here to just bash the US or anything. But I can't just stand by and let someone believe they are right in what they say. Hypocrisy and irony is a very strong trait I notice far too often in Americans.

Iraqi soldiers are just as brave and great as the US army soldiers. Each fights for what they believe in and die for what they follow. Don't ever disrespect another soldier in this thread again or I'll let my tongue lash out on the rampant idiocy you spout.
It's fine to be proud of who you are. But don't ever speak ill of any fighter. Ally or enemy.

Winston Churchill said "when you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite."
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I dont know if I have enough pictures to calm down this thread now. popc1.gif

Excellent points Vlad 08.gif

As Martin Lawarence said. "Gotta go see yah when I see yah"
bts34e
QUOTE(Vlad @ Jan 20 2006, 02:38 PM)
Human Garbage?
Look I've read this thread and what I can tell, you are nothing but an american patriot. Well good for you. But don't ever talk shit about soldiers of any breed. Because I could list human garbage that was american born and raised till I'm short on breath.

A soldier is one who fights for their country and beliefs. If taking planes and crashing them into the WTC was a mission, then it was preformed with valour and it was successful.

Your entire army is a terrorist organization. You are trained to kill and that's all. Your slogans are "kill kill kill"
You invaded a country under false accusations of weapons of mass destruction and thousands suffer daily from the United States being in Iraq.
The threat of death is just as high (if not higher) with US presence in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Now I'm not here to just bash the US or anything. But I can't just stand by and let someone believe they are right in what they say. Hypocrisy and irony is a very strong trait I notice far too often in Americans.

Iraqi soldiers are just as brave and great as the US army soldiers. Each fights for what they believe in and die for what they follow. Don't ever disrespect another soldier in this thread again or I'll let my tongue lash out on the rampant idiocy you spout.
It's fine to be proud of who you are. But don't ever speak ill of any fighter. Ally or enemy.

Winston Churchill said "when you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite."
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I think they are more like a cult than anything. Human garbage fits just fine and I for one am not concerened about any tongue lashing coming from you! Who's the hypocrit? You think you can tell people what they can or cannot call those "soldiers" but you also think everyones entitled to there own opinion. Get a grip!
jrock8
QUOTE(bts34e @ Jan 20 2006, 04:45 PM)
I think they are more like a cult than anything. Human garbage fits just fine and I for one am not concerened about any tongue lashing coming from you! Who's the hypocrit? You think you can tell people what they can or cannot call those "soldiers" but you also think everyones entitled to there own opinion. Get a grip!
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bts... you can "get a grip" on me anyday jerkit.gif

(sorry, just thought i'd bring some levity to this tongue.gif )
bondiguy
QUOTE(Gnappster @ Jan 19 2006, 11:46 AM)
I liked the boobie pictures  confused-smiley-013.gif
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mmmmmm.... I like boobies too tongue.gif
bts34e
QUOTE(jrock8 @ Jan 20 2006, 05:48 PM)
bts... you can "get a grip" on me anyday  jerkit.gif

(sorry, just thought i'd bring some levity to this tongue.gif )
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diane26
unsure.gif How about them SeaHawks
afraven
QUOTE(diane26 @ Jan 20 2006, 01:19 PM)
For the love of god you can back your country and still speak your mind about what you think is wrong. Isnt that what makes america well america??? We can do that. We dont have to agree with the war to support our troops.

Bleck WHY THE HELL DO I EVEN LOOK IN HERE!!

Need to study exam in 2 hours and it is not on politics.  nah.gif
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Diane, I wear my uniform proudly everyday and protect your right to speak your mind, that's the American way. Our country is not perfect by any stretch, but I'd rather live no where else in the world than the US. I also love the freedom of expression that we have in this country. That's what gives you the right to show those big beautiful tits of your on here!!! God I love this country!!! 2thumbs.gif
diane26
QUOTE(afraven @ Jan 20 2006, 03:51 PM)
Diane, I wear my uniform proudly everyday and protect your right to speak your mind, that's the American way. Our country is not perfect by any stretch, but I'd rather live no where else in the world than the US. I also love the freedom of expression that we have in this country. That's what gives you the right to show those big beautiful tits of your on here!!! God I love this country!!!  2thumbs.gif
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I thank you for that like I said I have complete respect for soilders all of them to do what they do, my family is stong military. But just because one does not agree with a war or actions of there leaders does not mean they dont support the men and woman that put there life on the line. As a wise person once said. The only Bush I trust is my own nah.gif

Ok for real no more political talk for me here just wont be the same.
Vlad
QUOTE(bts34e @ Jan 20 2006, 05:45 PM)
I think they are more like a cult than anything. Human garbage fits just fine and I for one am not concerened about any tongue lashing coming from you! Who's the hypocrit? You think you can tell people what they can or cannot call those "soldiers" but you also think everyones entitled to there own opinion. Get a grip!
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Well you are right. You can say anything you wish. But once spoken you are wide open to reply. I can call anyone who claims the Taliban "human garbage" a hypocrite since your own army is comprised of the very same filth as any army.

Must I mention Abu Ghraib for American soldiers?
Must I mention Somalia for my fellow soldiers?
Must I mention the genocide march of Germany?
Must I mention Nemmersdorf and the Russians?
Must I mention Rwanda?

Armies throughout history are filth filled and just as evil as their enemy. There is no saint army of those who do no wrong or evil.
By listing one army as human garbage. You condemn your own army to the same title.

It is not I who needs to get a grip. It's you who needs to see the human beings that armies are comprised of. Just because they look different and fight for a cause you do not believe in does not make them any less human. They are still you in basic image and mind.
Ratt
Ok - here is another way to look at it.

The people that flew planes into the WTC were in fact Humans. The fact that what they did cannot be comprehended by what we call "a sane mind" does not necessarily deny them their human status. Don't like them, or more specifically, their actions, by any means, but at the end of the day they are human.

The thing that has not been said to this point in this thread is the following: What is seen as Evil depends on which side you are on. Thus, what we see as evil would be seen by our enemy as good, and we are evil.

I will try to be careful when I say this next part, for I know that it will stir a shitstorm, and for that, I apologise. But the people that flew planes into the WTC saw it as a means to stop evil. The US and it's allies (Including my own beloved Australia) sent troops into Iraq and Afghanistan to stop an evil. I know it is a far stretch - but what is the difference. Many casualties in all countries were not trained military, for don't forget that the Taliban was not the official military of Afghanistan.

I will stop now, and look forward to your replies. All I ask is that however passionate you are on the subject; please try not to respond with anger in your mind, but rather take the time to think what you say first. Hopefully this will stop the flaming that is starting on this thread.

Thankyou.
Ratt.
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