Wether you believe them or not, or take them case by case, you can't help but love hearing about a good conspiracy theory!!!

On this talkback show the other night on radio they had people ringing in about their 9/11 conspiracy theories which prompted me to think... do you guys and girls have any good ones???

I am a massive fan of Kurt Cobain and I strongly believe his death was not suicide and that he was murdered. There is a stack of evidence supporting that claim which I could go into if you like but i want to hear some others too...

I saw Elvis on South Beach the other week

Kurt Cobain was the MAN!!!! What a talented guy and a terrible loss. Can't think of too many conspiracies that I actually believe. Back soon.

whoa deja vu!

Anyway, as for the 9/11 conspiracy I never bought into it before and in general I don't buy into most conspiracy theories anymore. But after seeing the documentary, it really got me thinking. Obviously it is done with a bias to the filmmakers' point of view but they have a lot better explanation than I've ever heard from the government and all their facts are verifiable. What happened to the people supposedly on the planes is a little hard to believe, but take 90 minutes out of your day and watch THIS .
The biggest kicker is that no skyscraper has ever totally collapsed due to fire or being hit by a plane. Even the Empire State building which was hit by a bomber never came close to collapsing.

I'm not saying I believe everything in the documentary, but I think the government has a lot more involvement than they've let on.

So instead of watching the Sex and the City Marathon tonight, take some time and watch 9/11 Loose Change

And that is all®

yer crazy, I ain't missing my show

I don't know if I still have it but I was sent a video about the supposed plane that hit the pentagon. If you really look at the photos and hear what the I witnesses have to say I truly believe the government hit it with a missile. How convienient that the "plane" hit the only part of the building that was under repairs and had been for some time.

He's back frome his trip to the moon? er was it Mars.? He and Nixon went there together.

Watch the video I posted. It's ALL on there plus lots more.
What a retard I am, I didn't post the video.

It should be fixed now. Or click HERE.

My main argument against most conspiracy theories is they give the government way to much credit for being able to both pull it off AND keep it quiet after. I've seen "Loose Change" and alot of their information is taken out of context to the point of being unbelievable. When some of the people who were interveiwed for that show were subsequently asked if what was aired actually represented what they had said, many of the people stated that it did not. It's almost analogous to cutting letters out of a newspaper, printing the message you want to dissiminate, than point out that it all came from the "New York Times" because that's where all the words came from. If 9/11 was a government set-up, would George Bush be shown sitting there like an idiot reading to a bunch of schoolkids when the planes attacked? That being said, I did see Marilyn Monroe giving Jimmy Hoffa a BJ behind a New Jersey resturant. JFK and Elvis were waiting for their turn sitting at the counter.

PICS!?

Plenty of pictures, but they're all blurry and out of focus. Kinda like all the ones you see of Bigfoot and Aliens.

and Santa Claus

Santa Claus is a good example of people needing to believe in things that aren't there. I was watching some documentary about how some people don't believe that man has walked on the moon. It was like no matter what these people were shown or how their "evidence" was debunked, you could tell not one of them had any intention of changing their minds. They can join the "Flat Earth Society" along with the Elvis sighters and the 911 gang and all go live at the North Pole where it rains gumdrops.

I always wonder who these people were.

Re: Bush....this says it all.

Isn't that Lee Harvey Oswalds' head in the second window from the left? Looks just like him from this angle.

Nah, He's giving the Barrista a BJ!

Nighthawks, that's a great painting(yes I'm an art nerd too, among other forms of nerdery).

Edward Hopper right? I thought it was called "Lost Dreams" or something like that.

Gnap is correct. It is in the Art Institute in Chicago.

My brother dated a beautiful female lawyer -- who didn't believe we landed on the moon. Can you imagine the 10's of thousands of people that would have to keep that secret??? All astronaughts and the mission control people knowing that they are basically staring at nothing and pretending that the people landed? And the 100+ people who have gone into space? The thousands of spaceship designers, and repair personnel, who are basically creating movie props under this theory?

And the moon rocks, what are they? And space junk, what exactly is that? And are satellites? Are they real? Because my GPS and satellite radio work pretty well for stuff based on a fiction.

I never got a chance to ask her about all this. My brother broke up with her because she apparently thought that the "myth" of the female orgasm was a massive conspiracy theory, too.

Well, I gotta be a devil's advocate. Having satellites in space is an entirely different proposition than going to the moon, both from a distance and logistical standpoint. Moon rocks are found on many continents especially Antarctica. NASA was even looking for them there during the Apollo years..hmmmm. The only conclusive proof that spacecraft has gone to the moon is the mirror placed there for laser distance measurements but that doesn't mean people put them there.





btw, I believe man has walked on the moon lol.

WOW this thread is alive! I love it guys..

Like I said you don't have to believe in them but conspiracy theories are great... I love them!

For the record i think 9/11 WAS a terrorist act by Al Queda, and I believe man has walked onto the moon!

Re 9/11 how do the theorist explain the 50 odd people who lost their lives on flight 77, and their grieveing families or are they all in on it? A missile? please....

Re Kurt Cobain there are too many facts to ignore;

At the time of his death Kurt had 3 times the lethal limit of Heroin in his bloodstream, making it impossible for him to be coherent enough to load a gun, put it into his mouth and pull the triger!

What makes it even more unblieveable is that there are NO fingerprints on the gun at all, and Kurt was not wearing gloves when he "shot himself"

Courtney was about to be divorced by Kurt and he had actually written a will excluding her but it was yet to be finalised and signed and was therefore defunct.

There is a tonne of evidence and if anyone is interested I can go into it in further detail.... in the meantime keep those theories coming!!!

It wouldn't be too far fetched to believe that nut job Courtney Love had something to do with it.

i absolutely LOVE conspiracy theories!!!

i dont know much about the Kurt Cobain situation and i am definitely open to everyones views on 9/11.

but i must say, i am enthralled by the JFK assassination! BIGTIME conspiracy in sooooo many ways. i have to admit that this was the single most interesting thing i ever learned in highschool. lol. and i think the whole thing is fucked upppp!!!

i love this discussion thread! way to go!

Ok you'd have to be a dumbass if you thikn that the people on the planes and their families were in on it. All I'm saying is that there is lots of proof that the government had enough warning, evidence what have you to know something was up. A the other thing is it doesn't make any sense to me that the gov would destroy one of their own buildings (pentagon) but they was absolutely no evidence to prove that it was a plane that crashed through and whatever it was that did hit it it went thru too many concrete walls to have been a plane. The hole was the wrong size, the noise people heard didn't match up to that of a plane and all footage caught by any camera in any building nearby was confiscated in a matter of a couple hours. Ok grabbing all the footage make sense and like I said I don't know why they would bomb their own building. As far as I remember, a passenger list of the supposed plane was never found and it wasn't found out where it had come from or anything.


I wonder if my sister still had the e-mail?


I have a few conspiracy theories which i may share later. I totally believe in the Kurt Cobain, JFK and Marilyn Monroe conspiracies. Now what does everyone think about the Devinci code? There's a whole bunch of conspiracies wrapped up in that series, especially the book before it called Demons and Angels.

With all that herion in his system he must have been attempting suicide on the installment plan. Courtney Love probably just hurried it along a few years.

i for one am not familiar with the specifics of this case. but i am going to see the movie and perhaps read the book

As I'm sure you figured out, you brothers lawyer friend must be a bit daft. The moon rocks that came back from one of the trips to the moon were treated as more valuable that gold or diamonds. They cost that much to obtain. They were devided up among serveral university and government labs to be studied. Some of the rocks were studied in both the astronomy and chemistry department of the university where I work. That was many years ago. In one of the labs where these rocks were studied, they used a hand-crank grain mill to grind the samples being studied into dust.





A number of years later when the proffessor in charge of that lab died, I was involved with helping clean up the lab. I ended up with that grain mill. (It now decorates a shelf in my basement, along with other dust and clutter.) Of course we went to the moon.

How do you spell " P H O TO S H O P ?"

No conclussions just yet. I'm still trying to break the damn code!

I'm still trying to figure out how they got the caramel inside the caramilk bar.

There are a number of sites that debunk the Da Vinci Code. I'm a lapsed Catholic but I think this book/movie tries to make a buck off of the Catholic Church, and Christianity in general as a prop.

The book out and out slandered Opus Dei, which is a quirky, strict Catholic group, but not affiliated in any way with violence, threats, or inside Catholic Church intrigue.

The Mary Magdalene stuff doesn't have a shred of proof to back it up.

The "Jesus as human being" original belief is false, too. All evidence points to the Council of Nicea (referred to in the Da Vinci Code) as deciding how Jesus could be the Son, the Father, and the Spirit at the same time. Not whether he was human or not.

The stuff regarding Roman Emperor Constantine is distorted also. He definitely institutionalized Christianity/Catholicism in the Roman Empire, but did not fiddle with the inner workings or doctrine.

Finally, Da Vinci himself was non political and wouldn't have had a lot of motivation to do the stuff with his art that is alluded to in the book.

That's easy to figure out. But how do they get them in those damn wrappers???

Will you will your moon rock grain mill to me?? That would be the most awesomest possession ever!!!

Here's my take on the "Davinci Code". I listen to an unabridged Cd recording during a long trip. In the first part of the book, the lead character can't figure out a clue that's written in code. He's supposed to be an expert but he's stumped. Since I'm listening to the story instead of seeing the words on a page, I can't see what the words look like in code. Anyway, he calls in the world-class expert. At first, she's baffled by this code. Come to find out it can be read when held up to a mirror! Now c'mon, I could have "deciphered" a code that simple in the fifth grade. Right then, I lost all interest in the rest of the story but continued to listen because I still had many more mile to drive. I didn't even make it all the way to the end before my interest had completely waned. As a historical novel, it sucked. As a work of fiction, it sucked and evidently as a movie it sucks. So overall, I'd say it sucked.

I thought so, too!

I just want a chance to convince Isaac's brother's former sweetheart that the female orgasm is not a myth.

I think it's quite hysterical that so many people can take a fictional work of art and try to apply it as factual based proof of history ie most recently the Da Vinci Code novel. As I personally haven't done any research outside of starting to read the book I won't claim to be an expert on it, but from the first page of the text Dan Brown does an excellent job of portraying a fictional story so that it is read as truth. I don't know if he has claimed that parts of the book that have been "debunked" are factual outside of what was written. Thus I find it very hysterical and laughable that people spend so much of their life trying to debunk fictional material.

I hold those beliefs very strongly!



The theory that is out there and of which I believe is that their nanny, a friend of Cuntenys was shooting up with Kurt and provided him with heroin with a very high purity to it, alas leaving him unconscious. It was then the nanny who propped the shotgun into his mouth and pulled it, leaving no fingerprints and putting the needles back neatly into the container, locking the door from the inside and escaping through the window.

I believe KC was troubled but was a very different man once Francis was born and would not have left her by herself.

If u look at the Suicide note there is 2 distinct writers. The first and majority reads mainly as a farewell letter, as in KC was about to leave Nirvana. It isn;t until the second part starts that it reads more like a suicide note

p.s if anyone needs hel transcribing the letter I'll happily do so

Yeah, what's up with that??? People can't enjoy their entertainment because it's not believeable enough or whatever??? If you want realistic, go rent a documentary. I want to be entertained so I succumb to the much needed suspension of disbelief to enjoy a fictional movie or book. If the author does a good job of creating their fictional world and adhering to the rules of that world, then it usually is a good movie/book. Harry Potter is a completely fictional setting, but you are able to enjoy the books because the events are realistic for that fictional universe that the author created.

I think people have a hard time admitting they enjoyed something that is so fake. or maybe they want to feel like they're part of mystery solving themselves so they feel it necessary to point out plot holes. who knows?

By the way, I wonder if those same people are trying to figure out plot holes and unrealistic situations when they're watching porn.

YEAH!

Like why would that girl fuck that old fat hairy guy, she is obviously attractive enough to take her pic, and why don't nurses blow me when i have to go to hospital? Oh and why is that guy a pool cleaner when he has a footlong... he should be in Porn!

It used to be "The butler did it.", but this is the 21st century so now it's "The nanny did it". Women have come a long way, I'm glad they're finally getting their recognition in conspiracy theories.

Now THAT was funny. Would that be irony?

Re: The RC Church and the DaVinci Code

( From: http://www.bettybowers.com/davinci.html )


There's no place like Rome! There's no place like Rome!

This man (on the left wearing a fabulous vintage chiffon-lined Dior gold lamé gown over a silk Vera Wang empire waist tulle cocktail dress, accessorized with a 3-foot beaded peaked House of Whoville hat, and the ruby slippers Judy Garland wore in the Wizard of Oz) is worried that The Da Vinci Code might make the Roman Catholic Church look foolish.

Funniest post I've read in a long while. Nicely done, the House of Whoville hat is a classic.

Damn, Closeup, Did your 'puter eat another password? (or 2?) You're going to be a noob for life at this rate.

I wish I could claim credit for any of the cleverness. Somebody sent me a badly scrambled email about it sans the pic. I Googled the line " worried that The Da Vinci Code might make the Roman Catholic Church look foolish."

Who needs a brain?

Pay no attention to the man behind the green curtain in the corner.

More on DaVinci...the man, not the book or the RC church issues.

When I was in Italy this April, I went to a couple of art/science exhibits about Leonardo and his various forms of genius. I hadn't realized that he could also "mirror write." Chick this link out and try it. Pretty amazing.


Just giving this thread a

Ok WTF is a QMUD????

Haven't figured it out yet? Come on Bondi, look at it through a mirror....