What are metal horns some of you may ask? They are: index finger and pinkie raised proudly as the sign of the beast, ready for an unholy wave to your favorite demon king. Or... something else??

Many maintain that Ronnie James Dio invented it. He got it from his grandma, who used to flash "the horns" as protection against the evil eye. Or, if you pointed the horns at someone, you were giving the evil eye, according to Grandma Dio. RJD would flash the horns in concert and it took off.

Others claim that Gene Simmons invented it from how his hand was poised on an album cover.

Other thoughts?






Rock On!!!

I am so not a rock and roll person I dunno, I just know growing up it was the pinkie and thumb and everyone said Shaka Bro at the beach

LMFAO!!! I never expected anyone to respond. Am I the only metal head here? i know I'm not...

I am a hip hop girl LOL


I think I am gonna try to get addicted to this play station game I just put in cause I feel like I don't have enough addictions. LOL

One can never have enough addictions... LOL

You telling me, speaking of which you done with my bong yet???

Oh shit...I don't remember where I set it down.

Should be next to my needle you borrowed too??

No shit?

Now you're forgetting? We need a babysitter.

The sign comes from the Hawaiian surf and popular culture. Ususally. the hand with the thumb and pinkie finger raised are wiggled off to one's side. The saying that went with it originally was "shaka buddha," often also followed by "Hang loose." When I was stationed in Hi in late 1974 - late 1976, it was completely ingrained in the popular culture. The salute (or wave) is now just called the Shaka. It even made the news recently when some enlisted Hawaiian serviceman forgot and "saluted" an officer this way. The officer got all bent out of shape and brought the dude up on charges. ( Apparently the officer wasn't from Hi. )
Click on the link and read about it.


http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/.../508120364.html

The "Shaka Bro" is just a modification of the original that has entered the beach culture. That heavy metal bands have picked it up and wave to the audiences with it, doesn't surprise me. It has nothing to do with evil or the devil's horns. It was original used as a friendship greating...allmost a blessing.

Shaka buddha

Evade she is talking about the INDEX and Pinky up and the ring and middle finger down which is commen in Metal scenes.

Looks like I get the



I only read your decription of the sign...

Are you taking about the gesture that Johnny Cash is doing in gnappster's avatar?
That sure as hell wasn't invented by anyone's grandma.

No, that's flipping off, not horns.

Quit staring and your naken man sculpture and pay attention there, mister. index and pinky fingers!!! Picture beavis and butthead rockin' on or someone screaming free bird when drunk at a wedding.

we always did it as a rock on thing , I also think maybe Dio did it first but , in my rock days kiss was fading fast , but as I sit here listening and watching a Def leapard video I picked up last night , I do think your right DIO Rocks On my dear

Show me a picture... of you...I mean horns.

You're the one with your head up your ass (avatar).

And I still knew what she was talking about.

Even AF's kid knew what the hell she was talking about.

http://www.ratemymelons.com/chat/index.php...indpost&p=93514

Oh well, that will teach me to try post anything when I'm on the graveyard shift.... I didn't read Tippy's post clearly enough.

Thanks, Bobaloo, That ones been around since before rock and roll, too, let alone heavy metal. It allso wasn't invented by anyone's grandmother. It use to mean "kiss may ass."

Hey, that's cool. I was just razzing you a little bit. I do the same thing and I don't ever work the graveyard shift.

I have met a few girls in the graveyard, though. Wish they weren't always so cold.

they may be cold, but they are easy

And dirtier than you could imagine.

Ugh...

Necrcophilia....Let's play wake the dead, Fester!

i always thought that it was cuz of that gene simmons album cover. then agen its not something i've read into, nor something i plan on reading into.

i'm not a fan of the devil horns i've always seen it as a bit cheesy. cept at a slipknot gig. i'll knock out a few devil horns for them nails bastards. god i love slipknot live. any other band i see and its a raised fist that will generally just do it for me. maybe i'll throw a few shapes as well in the pit. who knows. depends on the band.

are there many fans of metal on here? i have to say i'm not really a fan of old metal like maiden and shit like that. cant be doing with it to be honest. give me some of that new age hardcore/metalcore anyday

I like the old and the new. It's all good.

It's a common misconception that RJD's grannie invented the devilhorns as a response to an ancient Italian curse. In actuality, she had arthritis and could only raise her index and pinkie fingers.

And thus, a metalhead tradition was born.

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The only horn that really matters

Hmmmmm, you sound like you know what you're talking about.

You like metal?

Good times.............

with the name "kaisercheif" i would be surprised

You keep asking if anyone's a metal fan, but what's your definition of metal? Personally, I love bands like Danzig (and all his start up bands like the Misfits and Samhain), Megadeth, Rammstein, Slayer, Metallica, Body Count, Anthrax, Fear Factory, and on and on into the sunset the list goes.

This may interest you...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil_horns

As for the Hawaiian themed finger sign...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaka_sign

i dont like any of them bands you listed. used to like fear factory when i was younger but i went off them. i saw slayer live once as well and they were shit. its just not my kind of metal i spose.

And here I thought "throwing the goat" was just another innuendo for masturbation

Great articles, lickin..., I'm glad they mention the ALS (short cut) sign for I love (or like) you. I learned a we bit of ALS when I was in college...I don't remember the whole alphabet, but I do remember that one. It is usually done in sort of a sweeping motion (but not always) where one puts one's fingers in the described position and then uses them to point at the person one is talking to and (sort of) sweep them toward you as you point back at yourself. As it said in the article, the pinkie is the ALS letter "I" and the index and thumb extended is the letter "L." The "you" left as an understood part of the gesture or is indicated by the sweep of the hand back toward yourself. In the picture that Bobo linked to of AF's son, the sigh he is making reminds me of the ALS sign.

Call on the Bull and you'll get the Horns!!


Partying with Friends

Any post-party antics worthy of mentioning???

Pics, Damn it!

Nah we have to behave when her B/F is around

Shit! Well behaved women never make history!

Well behaved......HA......only when necessary evade....only when necessary

Like I satd, "Pics?"

Have you not visited the girl on girl thread

I think that threads needs updated, foxy!!! I'll be waitin'