week the class is on Tuesdays and Thursday nights and I find out my teacher is MISSING.

The last time he was seen was on the last day of March.... Since I missed last week I had no idea but apparently there was no class cause he has just dissapered. this is like the third OC teacher to go missing in the past year.

THey just posted it on the News site today.


Here is the link

http://kitsapsun.com/bsun/local/article/0,...4613530,00.html


I am in shock I have never known anyone on a personal level that has gone missing.

I had a professor who died the day before the first class.

In a way that would be better but I met him and chatted with him and really liked him he was a very funny cool teacher and I was looking forward to his class and now I dunno. I am not sure how to handle this I have all sorts of morbid horrifc thoughts of what has happened going through my head and today like the whole class was going on as if no big deal and I sat there in shock. Maybe I am weird but I would hope if I went missing people would care.

It's probably in poor taste to make a joke about a matter like this. but that's what I do.

here goes.

so he's an OC professor, as in obsessive/compulsive??? Maybe he suffers from the condition and just can get to work because he just can't be sure if he tapped the mailbox three times in the proper place and then if he scratched his nose exactly 37 steps after walking around the lamp post 3 times backwards then forwards.

Seriuosly, though. I hope they find the guy, that's pretty freaky that someone you know just goes missing like that. Maybe I can help find him. i'll chekc out the news link and see if I find any clues.

That is awful news, let's hope they find him!


In the meantime Diane, I would work my butt off studying and impress the heck out of him when he returns.....just an idea!

Be sure to keep us posted

Welp, no clues. But there's a sale at Penny's

The weirdest thing is that he is the third OC prof to go missing in a year...What happened to the other 2?

Foxy the only good thing is the new professor seems really kick ass and since he doesnt have our grades from the first test he gave us a multiple choice open book take home test for the first 4 chapters to be fair.

Also since I was in vegas last week I didnt miss class since there was no class sub wasnt brought in until yesterday.


Thanks Boo I am not a panny's girl though LOL


Gnappy that is what is odd, I found the article on one of the professors, he went for a walk and "vanished" he was found dead with a self inflicted stab wound.

I cant find the article on the other it was a Computer Tech Professor vanished as well, in our school paper which doesnt have a site, I have never heard an update on him but I know it was like Fall quarter I was reading in the Paper about him NEVER HEARD anyhthing on the news about him though or local paper just school paper, doesnt seem to spark any suspicions I guess allthough it has me freaked out.

Body Discovered in Park "Might Be" OC Instructor

By Kitsap Sun staff
April 15, 2006

Authorities are investigating the discovery of a body in Olympic National Park that may be an Olympic College instructor who disappeared April 1.

Hikers found the body late Wednesday in the Sol Duc Valley area of the mountainous park, and the case is now under investigation by Clallam County and U.S. National Park officials.

The Sunlink.com
Authorities have not confirmed that the body is that of the missing instructor, Wendell Harris, 57, of Poulsbo. But Harris’ vehicle, a black 1995 Chevy Tahoe, was found at a parking area about a mile away from the body.

"We can’t definitively say it’s him, but in all likelihood, it might be," said Deputy Scott Wilson, spokesman for the Kitsap County Sheriff’s Office.

The cause and manner of death are still under investigation, Wilson said.

Harris was last seen after teaching a class on the OC campus March 31. When he didn’t show up for work on April 1, 2 and 3, a fellow faculty member called police for help.

Neighbors told investigators that Harris had planned to go hiking about the time he went missing, and deputies had been systematically checking trailheads looking for his vehicle.

A temporary faculty member, Harris was applying for a permanent position at the college, Wilson added.

A friend of mine drowned at the beach in my second year of high school. They never found his body. Facing a friends death at 15 is tough. We had a few classes together and that year was never the same. Of course, you get over it but don't know when you'll think about it again.

Be careful, Diane. Since it's a night class, walk with other students to your car. Look out for each other and take care.

What the hell? Prof goes missing and now may be dead? This is the same guy that caught you on RMM, right?

I too lost a friend when I was younger. I was 16 or 17 and he was the same age. He was intelligent, popular, etc...no one had an idea he was troubled. He committed suicide.

No not the same professor this is a new quarter he was my phych professor and he was the head of the early childhood education dept. He is the third one to go missing from OC and second to be found dead they havent released how yet.


He was a good guy all I kept thinking about last night was the last time I seen him in class, I had to take one of my sleeping pills to stop thinking about it.

My grandmother commited suicide her and I were never close on a person al level, so far this teacher and a troubled girl I tried helping back in HS are the only to people I have lost on a personal level. It;s sad.

I also was only about 15 when this guy named Tyler was wlking in the hallways towards the gym and had a massive stroke. The teachers tried so hard to revive him. Thank-god it was the end of the day so barely any students saw it happen. They didn't even know anything was wrong with his heart. He was a popular good guy who was in a really good band and the Kelowna Rockets (a hockey team in Kelowna B.C.) were hoping to sign him.

Well they just said on the news **can't find it on the news site yet** that it was confirmed to be my teacher. Said he died of suicide.

So of three Missing Olympic College teachers since I have been there 2 have been found and both commited suicide yet my teacher gave NO signs of this to come. Nadda.

Also they said he got a concealed weapons permit right before why do you need a concealed weapons permit to commit suicide you just register your gun no need to get permission to conceal it.

Nothing ever makes sense.

WTF!!! I'm glad that I will never understand this, but... i will never understand what could be so horrible that killing yourself is the best "solution" you can come up with.

I wonder if we could have saved him if we emailed him a link to this web site??

were you in both of those prof's. classes d26

NO ironically out of three people I have known to die all 3 commited suicide. The husband thought it was funny to imply I must drive people insane.

I can understand it and unless someone has waged the mental war of life vs death it is something I would say is impossible to understand.

I am not nor hope I will ever be at that point again but the sterotypes regarding suicide are way off base.

Ironically he was a psych professor.

Suicide is a very selfish act

I disagree.

I agree

*sighs*

had to deal with it this weekend actually a good friends son took his own life and left us all wondering why. A very selfish mean thing to do to your loved ones leaving them wondering what 'they ' did wrong.

Maybe it is selfish to think its all about everyone else, Maybe the person was in such distress that they thought they were making things better. Maybe I should not even go down this road cause not even a pair of titties will keep it from getting ugly.

Like I said earlier, I'm glad I never will have to understand it, but...

I'm pretty sure the only feelings a person about to commit suicide is considering are their own. They may try to blame other factors or people or what have you, but they are considering their own feelings. If others' were considered, they would understand that suicide is not really a choise others would have you choose.

I don't know. In the wise words of the much more verbose Dennis Miller, "That's just my opinion. I could be wrong."

yeah, but what about 3 pairs of titties, a guy named Bobaloo, a hot tub, some baby oil, a video and still camera, two tripods, two more pairs of titties, a water bed, and some coffee?

Well I tried killing myself a few times didn't work than I made a serious attempt and it was "in my mind at the time" I completely unselfish act, I was doing it for my son "or so I thought at the time" it was a phone call from a worried friend and a call to 911 and a night of drinking charcoal in the ER that saved my life, and with lots of help I see things a whole lot differently now but when someone has a mental illness they do not think logically like a person not in that situation.

Sure some people kill themselves for selfish reasons such as pay back to a ex lover or murder suicides and what have you, but I would venture to say this is not the norm, and when you are in that situation contiplating life or death and stuff usually you are thinking of those around you and you are convinced of how much better there life will be after they mourn your death,.


Just the opinion from someone that has been there and spent many of years to get myself on a better path.

Can Wigglez and Nat be the extra titties too??

well, you get the idea. there's not enough smiley in the world to express the amount of pleasure it would bring me to be in the company of you, Nat, and Wigglez

I didn't say that the person contemplating suicide is a selfish person; I mean that the act itself is selfish, whether the victim knows it's selfish or not. Selfish people (like kids who won't share) don't know they're being selfish. Or maybe it's really more inconsideration.

Interjection: Ironically there's a commercial advertising the overnight walk which is meant to spread suicide awareness and prevention.

Anyway... Obviously there's something else going through a person's mind other than rational thought. While it may have seemed selfless at the time, now that you've gotten help and are able to think back on the time, don't you see how had you committed the act how it may have been on the selfish side. Would your son have been better off??? HELL NO!!! It was probably hard f-ing work to get help and get back on tract, but think of how much better things are that you're here in your loved ones' lives that had you succeeded.

then again, I could be talking out my ass. I am fortunate enough not to have had any close encounters with someone contemplating suicide. But I tried to think it through logically for this post and I think I at the very least make a little bit of sense.

At the time I think he would have been better even now thinking logically, the situation I was in, the life he would have had when my parents adopted him would have been a really good life. He was very young so he would not have remembered me he would have the always there question though. For that I don't know how much that would have effected his life. B ut I know he would have been provided with a very loving home.

As far as myself besides my children I only have one stong rock in my life. Everyone else I don't think would have there life changed if I were gone, I mean I know some people would be sad but would be fine moving on, my step mom would take it the hardest after the kids but I would not get to that point now anyway.

Regardless I hate hearing about what a selfish thing it is because it is a very complex situation most of the time.. I always here how selfesh the person was how they wanted the easy way out of life how they were so weak and this and that and it really is not that black and white and to really understand I think you would have to have been that deep into that darkness and got out of it. I mean really in it not the times every now and than or as a teen when you were grounded or something. But when you were seriously contiplating ending yourown life.


But yes I can see for the most part what you are getting at. Many things in life are selfish for the most part most humans are selfish people by nature.

well said

I can say that "at the time" isn't the only time. No matter what was going on in your life at the time, there is a future ahead of that time. you probably couldn't think it all through then, but look at the changes you've made and how you have the awesome opportunity to be a positive influence in people's lives, whehter ou sons, other family members', or just other people you run across. Oftentimes you may not even realize you're being a postive influence. Your son may have been too young at the time, but you knew he'd grow up wondering. Then the rest of his life he would have had to wonder if his being born was a factor. And that probalby isn't the case, but he would still have to wonder that.

And, yes, humans are selfish. The fact remains that I could never know or understand what was going thorugh your mind at the time. I know no one will ever understand what your professor's hardships were. Everyone has their own hell. For me to say that yours or anyone else's hell is any better or worse than mine simply is not possible. But on the same token, a person who commits suicide has not properly evaluted the repurcussions of their actions on all concerned at all times down the road.

It goes without saying that I'm glad you had the strength and support to work through your problems. I applaud you for overcoming your struggle

Besides, just think how horrible it would be if you never got to meet me.

****Okay. I keep getting phone calls and getting distracted... So I'm just going to send this without proofreading... i hope it makes sense.

Thanks BOO, I see life in a whole new light than I ever saw it before and I am 99.9999% sure that I would never consider that path again, at least not as long as medication is around HAHA J/K sortof.

Anyway I been crying enough about my teacher **yes I cry you morons ** so I will step out of the deep thoughts for now.

Meeting you was well worth drinking the charcoal!!!

Ah Diane I knew you wouldn't forget me. How totally unselfish of you.

I could never forget

And FOxy and Bush and Jlynn and the list goes on

That hot tub is looking all the more enticing!!!

You can count me.....wouldn't miss it

Looks like less and less room for you. You can be the towel boy. Hubby can take pix! And topless is a rule ladies so Diane drink up if you need the confidence boost or motivation or whatever you wanna call it.

Liquid Courage come to me

Hell Diane I'll even bring it for ya......what do you drink hun?

Schmirnoff please

I'd be more than happy to be the towel boy. now where in the heck did I put those towels? Oh, well. I guess I'll just have to dry you ladies off myself

Consider it done

So when is orgi I mean party I can hardly wait.

I'm waiting to be told the date

There was a very serious issue being discused here and thought I would chime in with my 2 cents (cause that's about all it's worh on eBay)


I have to say that no matter how others interpret it suicide is an unknowingly selfish act. By this I mean that to everyone else it's a selfish act but for the person commiting it (in general) it is a very selfless act. Having been very close myself at different stages in my life, even after my son was born I had completly convinced myself about how much better off the world would be without me. How much better my son's life would be. I was the last person that I was thinking about. Most of it had to do financially because of the situation my son would have received a large life insurance settlement plus my retirement funds, plus social security that was equal to about half of my gross pay at the time, but anywho. A person that is deeply depressed like that continually beats themselves up, imagine the weird kid in high school getting picked on daily now take all that and do it to yourself.

Like I said just my 2 cents. Now I'm done being serious for a long while (I hope) back to the fun and smartassedness.

I know, I'm a little slow at reading things around here...

But still.

And suicide...wow. I'll skip all my psych-major mumbo jumbo and just go off of personal experience.

I was 12 when my grandfather committed suicide. I knew what had happpend, and why it had happened, and at the time, I wasn't angry, nor did I feel it was selfish. As time went on, though, my feelings changed. I'm still more hurt than anything, and I don't usually feel angry, but I struggle with whether or not it's selfish. At the core of the issue, I don't see why a person wouldn't have the right to do it, it's their own life. But as so many others have said, when you have a family, you have to really consider the effect it will have. I can't help but feel upset that my grandfather wasn't there to see me graduate in the top of my class, that he wasn't there to witness the birth of my brother's first son, his first great grandchild. Maybe that's selfish, but it makes a family feel DAMN inadequate that they weren't worth living for. I've seen the way it can ruin a family, as it did to my mother's side, and I guess maybe that's part of the reason I'm determined to become a psychologist.

Ultimately, we should not be here to pass judgement on these people, but rather to offer help to them, to let them know that there's always hope. Once you hit bottom, there's nowhere to go but up.

It makes me think of that Bright Eyes song, "No Lies, Just Love." I have to cry when I hear it, it has a deep emotional attachment for me.

For some reason, I don't think anything I just tried to say came out right.

I think you did just fine.