QUOTE(diane26 @ Feb 14 2006, 03:11 PM)
and I am sure I spelled that wrong good thing this isnt the spelling bee board;)
So with a woman when is it considered masturbation??? If she penetrates herself with something but doesnt cum is it?? Or if she doesnt penetrate but does cum is it as well??
Please Advise thanks
The act of masturbation isn't soley about the orgasm in my opinion. Just like the act of sex isn't about the orgasm.
I think playing with your area is masturbation,

with or without the final result. Just as sex is sex, with or without cumming. Not that guys ever have that problem... but I heard that it happens sometimes with girls (not from experience though! lol).