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SKULLZ0MBIE
Ron Paul for President 2008 2thumbs.gif
Why?
He voted against the Patriot Act.
He voted against regulating the Internet.
He voted against the Iraq war.

should I say more?

Hope for America

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ddd35
QUOTE(SKULLZ0MBIE @ Jun 21 2007, 11:30 PM)
Ron Paul for President 2008  2thumbs.gif
Why?
He voted against the Patriot Act.
He voted against regulating the Internet.
He voted against the Iraq war.

should I say more?

Hope for America

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but weres he stand on gay marriage ?

social security ?

fucking the fuel companys ? instead of them fucking us ?

health care ?

global warming ?

the death penalty ?

free speech ?

right to bear arms ? if hes against wars he probably doesnt like guns

education ???????????


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SKULLZ0MBIE
QUOTE(ddd35 @ Jun 22 2007, 10:05 AM)
but weres he stand on gay marriage  ?

social security ?

fucking the fuel companys  ? instead of them fucking us  ?

health care  ?

global warming  ?

the death penalty  ?

free speech ?

right to bear arms  ?  if hes against wars  he probably doesnt like guns 

education  ???????????
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He has never voted to raise taxes.
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
He has never taken a government-paid junket.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.

He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.

Congressman Ron Paul (R-Texas) is the leading advocate for freedom in our nation’s capital. As a member of the U.S. House of Representatives, Dr. Paul tirelessly works for limited constitutional government, low taxes, free markets, and a return to sound monetary policies. He is known among his congressional colleagues and his constituents for his consistent voting record. Dr. Paul never votes for legislation unless the proposed measure is expressly authorized by the Constitution

anymore info, feel free to check out RonPaul2008.com grinning-smiley-003.gif
ddd35
QUOTE(SKULLZ0MBIE @ Jun 22 2007, 08:37 AM)
He has never voted to raise taxes.
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
He has never taken a government-paid junket.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.

He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.

Congressman Ron Paul (R-Texas) is the leading advocate for freedom in our nation’s capital. As a member of the U.S. House of Representatives, Dr. Paul tirelessly works for limited constitutional government, low taxes, free markets, and a return to sound monetary policies. He is known among his congressional colleagues and his constituents for his consistent voting record. Dr. Paul never votes for legislation unless the proposed measure is expressly authorized by the Constitution

anymore info, feel free to check out RonPaul2008.com  grinning-smiley-003.gif
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well if hes that clean he doesnt have a snow balls chance in hell ... But I see were your coming from ...
SKULLZ0MBIE
QUOTE(ddd35 @ Jun 22 2007, 11:12 AM)
well if hes that clean  he doesnt have a snow balls chance in hell ...  But I see were your coming from  ...
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its a Start
bondiguy
QUOTE(ddd35 @ Jun 23 2007, 02:12 AM)
well if hes that clean  he doesnt have a snow balls chance in hell ...  But I see were your coming from  ...
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I know nothing about American polotics but they all start out that clean until they get into office, then they fuck you and us and everyone all over! Happens in every democratic nation!
Bobaloo
QUOTE(bondiguy @ Jun 22 2007, 06:14 PM)
I know nothing about American polotics but they all start out that clean until they get into office, then they fuck you and us and everyone all over! Happens in every democratic nation!
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I agree. I'm not much of a fan of politicians or the way offices are run. I'm sure it's a high stress job that involves dissatisfying a lot of people.

My opinion is that if you took a huge chunk out of the salary and took away the sickening amounts of power that politicians have, you'd have a lot less corruption. Can you imagine how great a country could be if the people who ran it took that position because they love their country and want to make positive changes, rather than just a big paycheck and power trip?

I live in a moderatly large suburban village of 42,000 people. It's run like a corporation rather than government. And our village president barely gets paid and is actually an insurance agent in town. other offices are similar in our town. Every person in office ran for their position because they have great pride in our village and want to make it great. Now, it's not prefect... we still have a hard time making decisions here because you will never be able to please everybody, but I think the spirit of the politics is in the right place... and that's a great building block.

But in the words of the great linguist, philosopher, and rabblerouser Dennis Miller: That's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
bondiguy
QUOTE(Bobaloo @ Jun 24 2007, 12:24 AM)


My opinion is that if you took a huge chunk out of the salary and took away the sickening amounts of power that politicians have, you'd have a lot less corruption.  Can you imagine how great a country could be if the people who ran it took that position because they love their country and want to make positive changes, rather than just a big paycheck and power trip?


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I couldn't agree with this paragraph more!
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QUOTE(bondiguy @ Jun 24 2007, 12:39 AM)
I couldn't agree with this paragraph more!
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Mike Bloomburg would make a great president. He's surly not in politics for the money. He's smart, pragmatic, and knows how to get things done. There's an interesting aticle about him in this weeks "US News & World Report".
simonwilkinson
I'm a Scot, but my best pals in the US all seem to be telling me that Ron Paul's the man .. I'm not following the US election process that closely (we have enough shit happening here as Gordon Brown is "gifted" the leadership of the UK from Tony Blair... not exactly democracy in action ...), but from what I can read of the guy (Ron Paul), he'd probably get my vote. I'm for lower taxes, small government, strong defence and security, welfare/health systems that are the minimum necessary to meet needs "free at the point of use" (we do this in the UK, but not sure that you Americans have achieved this yet?) and, above all, the fostering of self-reliance in people ... hey, maybe I'm American huh?
Gnappster
QUOTE(Bobaloo @ Jun 23 2007, 07:24 AM)
I agree.  I'm not much of a fan of politicians or the way offices are run.  I'm sure it's a high stress job that involves dissatisfying a lot of people. 

My opinion is that if you took a huge chunk out of the salary and took away the sickening amounts of power that politicians have, you'd have a lot less corruption.  Can you imagine how great a country could be if the people who ran it took that position because they love their country and want to make positive changes, rather than just a big paycheck and power trip?

I live in a moderatly large suburban village of 42,000 people.  It's run like a corporation rather than government.  And our village president barely gets paid and is actually an insurance agent in town.  other offices are similar in our town.  Every person in office ran for their position because they have great pride in our village and want to make it great.   Now, it's not prefect... we still have a hard time making decisions here because you will never be able to please everybody, but I think the spirit of the politics is in the right place... and that's a great building block.

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As much as of a douche nozzle as our provincial premier is, the mayor of our city is pretty good. He doesn't profess any membership of any particular political party, and he genuinely seems to have the best interest of the city in mind. He goes way above and beyond his job to help improve this place. Plus he was instrumental in bringing the Stones here fo not one, but 2 sold out shows, which were the largest grossing concerts in Canadian history and on the top 10 list for 2006 for all of N. America, but that's another story. Some of our recent econmic boom has to be credited to the energy sector, but our mayor has had a lot to do with it to.

I thought I read somewhere that the British parliment is paid pretty poorly. Can someone confirm this, or tell me I'm full of shit.
QUOTE(Bobaloo @ Jun 23 2007, 07:24 AM)
But in the words of the great linguist, philosopher, and rabblerouser Dennis Miller: That's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
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At least that line doesn't suffer from the Dennis Miller ratio laughing-smiley-017.gif
bondiguy
QUOTE(Gnappster @ Jun 26 2007, 03:57 AM)

I thought I read somewhere that the British parliment is paid pretty poorly. Can someone confirm this, or tell me I'm full of shit.

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You're full of shit.





Oh I don't know anything about british parliament! tongue.gif
Gnappster
QUOTE(bondiguy @ Jun 25 2007, 04:13 PM)
You're full of shit.
Oh I don't know anything about british parliament! tongue.gif
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that's ok. not knowing about a particular subject has never stopped people from voicing their opinion here before.
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QUOTE(Gnappster @ Jun 26 2007, 01:12 AM)
that's ok. not knowing about a particular subject has never stopped people from voicing their opinion here before.
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Well, there are a few notable exceptions. Sadly, I'm not one of them.
bondiguy
QUOTE(Gnappster @ Jun 26 2007, 04:12 PM)
that's ok. not knowing about a particular subject has never stopped people from voicing their opinion here before.
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Are you saying 3d doesn't know shit about babysitting?

or Skull doesn't know shit about.... um, errrrrrr...... anything? tongue.gif
ddd35
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bondiguy
3D using pop culture refences? Has the world gone topsy turvey?
ddd35
QUOTE(bondiguy @ Jun 27 2007, 10:29 PM)
3D using pop culture refences? Has the world gone topsy turvey?
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after my little trip I have a new outlook ... 2thumbs.gif
bondiguy
QUOTE(ddd35 @ Jun 28 2007, 11:45 PM)
after my little trip I have a new outlook  ...  2thumbs.gif
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ddd35
QUOTE(bondiguy @ Jun 28 2007, 10:30 PM)
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dont act so surprised , you know you wanted it !!!!
bondiguy
QUOTE(ddd35 @ Jun 30 2007, 12:02 AM)
dont act so surprised , you know you wanted it  !!!!
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Still, one is entitiled to be shocked tongue.gif
ddd35
QUOTE(bondiguy @ Jun 29 2007, 10:08 PM)
Still, one is entitiled to be shocked tongue.gif
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YES TRUE tongue.gif
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