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paybarraman
post Oct 18 2007, 02:54 AM
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Hi Marie.......
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bondiguy
post Oct 18 2007, 02:56 AM
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QUOTE(paybarraman @ Oct 18 2007, 05:53 PM)
It's possible.  Most times the determining factor in liquor sales are state level restrictions, not necessarily the store.  For instance, in my home state, the only place to buy liquor is in a "State Store"/Wine & Spirits Shop.  Standard department and grocery stores do not sell alcohol.
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Yeah I know about different levels of de-regulation etc. I just checked their website out, they do sell wine only which means they might appeal of a liquor license when they set up here.

Fuck they sell some shit, all in one outlet??? What's the catch re the low prices?
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paybarraman
post Oct 18 2007, 03:07 AM
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No real catch per se....Just the combination of bulk sales and repeat business. Plus, here in the US there is the consumer that looks for the All-In-One stop shop. Also, and I'm not real sure here, but you need to understand you're not getting the high profile name brand items.

Stores like Costco and WalMart are marketing for the low to middle-low income homes.
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bondiguy
post Oct 18 2007, 07:22 AM
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QUOTE(paybarraman @ Oct 18 2007, 06:07 PM)
No real catch per se....Just the combination of bulk sales and repeat business.  Plus, here in the US there is the consumer that looks for the All-In-One stop shop.  Also, and I'm not real sure here, but you need to understand you're not getting the high profile name brand items.

Stores like Costco and WalMart are marketing for the low to middle-low income homes.
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The TV's on their website were Sony Bravia, Samsung etc which are decent brands?

You have to understand how completely foreign it is to me to go to a place, buy some butter, a television and get my tires changed all in the one store! :blink:
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paybarraman
post Oct 18 2007, 07:39 AM
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The TV's on their website were Sony Bravia, Samsung etc which are decent brands?

You have to understand how completely foreign it is to me to go to a place, buy some butter, a television and get my tires changed all in the one store! :blink:
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True, true......But keep in mind, we Americans can be a pretty lazy bunch, so all that efficiency plus the ability to down a McDonald's Super Size Meal in one stop. You can't beat it!
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bondiguy
post Oct 18 2007, 08:04 AM
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QUOTE(paybarraman @ Oct 18 2007, 10:39 PM)
True, true......But keep in mind, we Americans can be a pretty lazy bunch, so all that efficiency plus the ability to down a McDonald's Super Size Meal in one stop. You can't beat it!
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They have McDonals inside too??? :o

I think I said this somewhere but when I was in Dallas airport earlier this year between connecting flights I was in need of some junk food to help with a hangover so I got some Maccas (Slang for McDonalds).

I didn't think I could stomach much so I asked for a small meal and the lady came out with the most chips (fries) I have ever seen and like this massive coke. When I said I asked for a small, she said that WAS small!!! Equivalent to our largest size
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Kiana
post Oct 18 2007, 09:49 AM
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And americans wonder why they are so fat....It's a no brainer
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Damor
post Oct 18 2007, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE(Kiana @ Oct 18 2007, 09:49 AM)
And americans wonder why they are so fat....It's a no brainer
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You think!! Now through a Krispy Kreme in the mix and we are screwed!
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bondiguy
post Oct 19 2007, 12:29 AM
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QUOTE(Kiana @ Oct 19 2007, 12:49 AM)
And americans wonder why they are so fat....It's a no brainer
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Yeah I gotta say in amongst the good looking co eds there are alotta LARGE people there!!!

QUOTE(Damor @ Oct 19 2007, 12:55 AM)
You think!!  Now through a Krispy Kreme in the mix and we are screwed!
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We have KK here too, it was popular as a mother fucker when it first opened about 4 years ago but interest has waned slightly
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post Oct 19 2007, 12:18 PM
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QUOTE(bondiguy @ Oct 17 2007, 10:34 PM)
So there is this massive chain originating from the USA looking to open up outlets in Australia and I think they are called CostCo???

There has been mixed reaction as we generally don't have these one stop shop, monster outlets in Australia and I was just wondering what their story is? Are the good? Are the value for money? What do they sell? etc...
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Costco is a pretty good place. We have one here. It is like a Wal-Mart but different. Where Wal-Mart is just about the lowest prices, Costco is more about, really good quality and lower prices. You have to buy a membership to shop there. It is about $50 a year(not sure as I get one through work). They sell mostly in bulk. You can't just go in and buy a can of soup, you have to buty 3 or a big ass one. It's good for families. Also they sell electronics, furniture, fitness equip, toys, books, magazines, electronics, jewellry, tires and on and on. They don't really sell cheap stuff(low quality). Most products are name brand or their house brand, Kirkland. MOST stuff is cheaper than in other stores but you still have to be careful as some stuff is the same price or higher than you can find elsewhere.
They have REALLY good meat, and high quality produce and grocery items.
They have a decent selection of electronics as well. It's not the very top of the line, but you're not going to find Sorny or knock off brands, it's all Panasonic, Sony, Apple, etc.
The only real problem is that you go in for a few things and you come out with a $200 bill, no exaggerating! I still don't know what I'm gonna do with 12 pounds of nutmeg ;)


QUOTE(paybarraman @ Oct 18 2007, 12:43 AM)
Can't say I know alot about Costco.  The stores are mainly in the south/central part of the US.  WHat I DO know is the CEO uses a pretty interesting business model.  He actually believes his employees should be paid what they're worth, that they should be valued and rewarded for success.  The company has one of, if not the lowest, employee turn-over rates in the US.  Most of his middle and upper management people started out working in the stores themselves.  He actually is a regular site on the floor of the store near the corporate offices and actually knows many of the floor staff by name.  And for me here's the kicker, this guy, as the CEO of a multi-million a year annual profits company only takes a $65-$75,000 USD a year salary.  He has no corporate jet or any of that shit.

Google up the comapny Bondi and you may find more than that.  I just put down what I knew off the top of my head from one of the "NBC Dateline" type primetime news programs.
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it's true, they treat their employees really well. Here they aren't even open on civic holidays and you go in and see the same employees month after month. They pay pretty well.

QUOTE(bondiguy @ Oct 18 2007, 12:49 AM)
Sounds pretty interesting. I am not sure of the time line but I am pretty sure they will be opening stores in Australia with Sydney and Melbourne likely to be among the first I presume.

I'll google em.. my main thought was do they sell liquor?
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You can't sell liquour in department stores here, but maybe in Aus. :unsure:



QUOTE(paybarraman @ Oct 18 2007, 01:07 AM)
No real catch per se....Just the combination of bulk sales and repeat business.  Plus, here in the US there is the consumer that looks for the All-In-One stop shop.  Also, and I'm not real sure here, but you need to understand you're not getting the high profile name brand items.

Stores like Costco and WalMart are marketing for the low to middle-low income homes.
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They sell lots of name brands at ours.

QUOTE(bondiguy @ Oct 18 2007, 05:22 AM)
The TV's on their website were Sony Bravia, Samsung etc which are decent brands?

You have to understand how completely foreign it is to me to go to a place, buy some butter, a television and get my tires changed all in the one store! :blink:
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Do you guys even have Wal-mart?

QUOTE(bondiguy @ Oct 18 2007, 06:04 AM)
They have McDonals inside too??? :o

I think I said this somewhere but when I was in Dallas airport earlier this year between connecting flights I was in need of some junk food to help with a hangover so I got some Maccas (Slang for McDonalds).

I didn't think I could stomach much so I asked for a small meal and the lady came out with the most chips (fries) I have ever seen and like this massive coke. When I said I asked for a small, she said that WAS small!!! Equivalent to our largest size
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Most Wal-marts have McD's inside Costco has it's own restaurant.
We're in the middle as far as sizes, our largest size is America's medium.
I think that's the problem with the US obesity problem. Not to say in Canada we don't have a problem. There are some FAT fuckers here too, but our rates aren't quite as high. I don't think we as a whole are eating any better. People around the world like to eat crap haha. The problem is that the establishments keep upping the portion sizes to ridiculous levels. After awhile, a giant size fries and drink start to look normal if that's all anyone serves. And how do you reverse the trend. Serve less? Then you look like you're ripping off the customer.
Well I don't know what that has to do with Costco or Australia for that matter, but umm, it's the most coherent thing I've typed all day.
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ddd35
post Oct 19 2007, 12:28 PM
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costco , sounds like wal marts SAMS CLUB ... gotta be a member and buy in bulk ..
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Macdonald
post Oct 19 2007, 12:31 PM
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My mom used to have a membership there and I know the comedian Bill Engvall when I went to see him in the summer, said they should rename CostCo to the "Can't leave without spending $300 store" which I find true as I haven't been in there lately but when my mom used to have a memebrship she wouldn't come out of therewithout spending at least $250.

Plus when I think of CostCo all that comes to mind is the move Employee of the Month, as that's basically the store it was filmed in. I wasn't a huge huge fan of the movie, but hey good for a couple chuckles, and i guess gives the idea of what CostCo could be like lol :P
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post Oct 19 2007, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(ddd35 @ Oct 19 2007, 12:28 PM)
costco , sounds  like wal marts   SAMS CLUB  ...  gotta be a member and buy in bulk  ..
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pretty much CostCo is competition for Sam's
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post Oct 19 2007, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(Macdonald @ Oct 19 2007, 10:31 AM)
pretty much CostCo is competition for Sam's
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we don't have a sam's here but I remember going to one in Mexico(of all places) and it was a lot like costco.
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Macdonald
post Oct 19 2007, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE(Gnappster @ Oct 19 2007, 12:36 PM)
we don't have a sam's here but I remember going to one in Mexico(of all places) and it was a lot like costco.
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with me being in a suburb of Toronto within i'd say 30 mins of my house there are:
2 Costcos
1 Sams
1 Super Walmart
3 Regular Walmarts

lol, i've personally never been in a Sam's except in the states, mainly cuz I love buying 28 packs of beer (Molson) for only $15.00 US plus deposit and tax so works out to only $17 something compared to like $40 Canadian for the same thing
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Gnappster
post Oct 19 2007, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE(Macdonald @ Oct 19 2007, 10:39 AM)
with me being in a suburb of Toronto within i'd say 30 mins of my house there are:
2 Costcos
1 Sams
1 Super Walmart
3 Regular Walmarts

lol, i've personally never been in a Sam's except in the states, mainly cuz I love buying 28 packs of beer (Molson) for only $15.00 US plus deposit and tax so works out to only $17 something compared to like $40 Canadian for the same thing
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it's a travesty how booze made here costs LESS in another country.

I always pick up 40s of Crown Royal whenever I cross the border. Price in the states, $20. Price here, close to $40. :blink:
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post Oct 19 2007, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(Gnappster @ Oct 19 2007, 12:41 PM)
it's a travesty how booze made here costs LESS in another country.

I always pick up 40s of Crown Royal whenever I cross the border. Price in the states, $20. Price here, close to $40.  :blink:
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yeah it is a travesty...i buy lots of booze in the states when I can,

Especially when you can get 28 packs of bottles or 30 cans for $15 US
1 litre or bigger bottles of wine for like $7 to $10 :blink:
Hard Liquor like you said $20

Even with our dollar more than the US i'd love to know when Canadian consumer goods will finally reduce in price lol :P
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post Oct 19 2007, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE(Macdonald @ Oct 19 2007, 10:44 AM)
yeah it is a travesty...i buy lots of booze in the states when I can,

Especially when you can get 28 packs of bottles or 30 cans for $15 US
1 litre or bigger bottles of wine for like $7 to $10 :blink:
Hard Liquor like you said $20

Even with our dollar more than the US i'd love to know when Canadian consumer goods will finally reduce in price lol :P
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I would say when people stop drinking. that is to say, never! :lol:
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post Oct 19 2007, 04:59 PM
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Plus when I think of CostCo all that comes to mind is the move Employee of the Month, as that's basically the store it was filmed in. I wasn't a huge huge fan of the movie, but hey good for a couple chuckles, and i guess gives the idea of what CostCo could be like lol :P
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I saw that movie on a trans Atlantic flight...'cept I hadn't bought the ear phones so it was a totally absurd lipsyncing experience. I decided it wasn't worth renting. :roflmao:
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post Oct 19 2007, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE(Gnappster @ Oct 20 2007, 03:18 AM)
Costco is a pretty good place. We have one here. It is like a Wal-Mart but different. Where Wal-Mart is just about the lowest prices, Costco is more about, really good quality and lower prices. You have to buy a membership to shop there. It is about $50 a year(not sure as I get one through work). They sell mostly in bulk. You can't just go in and buy a can of soup, you have to buty 3 or a big ass one. It's good for families. Also they sell electronics, furniture, fitness equip, toys, books, magazines, electronics, jewellry, tires and on and on. They don't really sell cheap stuff(low quality). Most products are name brand or their house brand, Kirkland. MOST stuff is cheaper than in other stores but you still have to be careful as some stuff is the same price or higher than you can find elsewhere.
They have REALLY good meat, and high quality produce and grocery items.
They have a decent selection of electronics as well. It's not the very top of the line, but you're not going to find Sorny or knock off brands, it's all Panasonic, Sony, Apple, etc.
The only real problem is that you go in for a few things and you come out with a $200 bill, no exaggerating! I still don't know what I'm gonna do with 12 pounds of nutmeg ;)
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WOw that response was riddled with references haha but I think I get the idea. Interesting you have to buy membership to shop there... I guess that's how they make their money in some way?

Not sure I'll benefit from it with only the 2 of us at my residence but I'd like to check it out when they do eventually open

QUOTE(Gnappster @ Oct 20 2007, 03:18 AM)
You can't sell liquour in department stores here, but maybe in Aus.  :unsure:
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You can't sell Liquor IN department stores here either, but most chains have their own liquor stores right next to the maind epartment store. They just get around the law by putting a wall up! haha

In a way it is good the industry is regulated here, keeps me in a job

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Do you guys even have Wal-mart?
Most Wal-marts have McD's inside Costco has it's own restaurant.
We're in the middle as far as sizes, our largest size is America's medium.
I think that's the problem with the US obesity problem. Not to say in Canada we don't have a problem. There are some FAT fuckers here too, but our rates aren't quite as high. I don't think we as a whole are eating any better. People around the world like to eat crap haha. The problem is that the establishments keep upping the portion sizes to ridiculous levels. After awhile, a giant size fries and drink start to look normal if that's all anyone serves. And how do you reverse the trend. Serve less? Then you look like you're ripping off the customer.
Well I don't know what that has to do with Costco or Australia for that matter, but umm, it's the most coherent thing I've typed all day.
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No we don't have Walmart's here. Coincidentally the only time I have been into a walmart was in Mexico City.

You have to say there is a problem when you cant even go to a department store without a McDonalds shoved in your face and down your throat.

Oh and the answer to the obesity epidemic... walk or run you fat lazy fucks! haha. Australia is not far behind you guys because of the plethora of fast food joints here as well as parents lack of concernt their child is playing 7 hours of PS3 a day and not riding his bike!

QUOTE(Macdonald @ Oct 20 2007, 03:31 AM)
My mom used to have a membership there and I know the comedian Bill Engvall when I went to see him in the summer, said they should rename CostCo to the "Can't leave without spending $300 store" which I find true as I haven't been in there lately but when my mom used to have a memebrship she wouldn't come out of therewithout spending at least $250.

Plus when I think of CostCo all that comes to mind is the move Employee of the Month, as that's basically the store it was filmed in. I wasn't a huge huge fan of the movie, but hey good for a couple chuckles, and i guess gives the idea of what CostCo could be like lol :P
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Oh I have seen that movie... so that's a costco?
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post Oct 19 2007, 06:13 PM
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WOw that response was riddled with references haha but I think I get the idea. Interesting you have to buy membership to shop there... I guess that's how they make their money in some way?
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Get me typing more than a few lines and the references insert themselves.
I dunno what the logic is behind a paid membership. it's not like they mkae a bulk of their money off it. maybe they feel it instills loyalty in a customer. you pay money so are more likely to shop there? idunno. all in all I think it's worth it, even though I don't pay for my membership.
we spend so much there they wanted to upgrade us to an executive member :wacko:


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Oh I have seen that movie... so that's a costco?
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I thought it was the bear on the unicycle :huh:
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post Oct 19 2007, 06:28 PM
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Get me typing more than a few lines and the references insert themselves.
I dunno what the logic is behind a paid membership. it's not like they mkae a bulk of their money off it. maybe they feel it instills loyalty in a customer. you pay money so are more likely to shop there? idunno. all in all I think it's worth it, even though I don't pay for my membership.
we spend so much there they wanted to upgrade us to an executive member :wacko:

I thought it was the bear on the unicycle  :huh:
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Yeah I know what you mean... scarily it's second nature now to reference haha. Yeah I'd be interested to see if it works. Aussies have a far different way of purchasing than North American but the whole premise seems a winner. I bet the other supermarket chains are a little nervous

I thought that was ballet?
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post Oct 19 2007, 06:36 PM
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Yeah I know what you mean... scarily it's second nature now to reference haha. Yeah I'd be interested to see if it works. Aussies have a far different way of purchasing than North American but the whole premise seems a winner. I bet the other supermarket chains are a little nervous

I thought that was ballet?
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i guess it's hard to say whether it will do well or not. I know that wal-mart didn't do that well in japan as many there see the lowest prices as low quality.

costco doesn't sell cheap crap (for the most part)
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post Oct 19 2007, 06:39 PM
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i guess it's hard to say whether it will do well or not. I know that wal-mart didn't do that well in japan as many there see the lowest prices as low quality.

costco doesn't sell cheap crap (for the most part)
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We see low prices as money saved to spend later on beer
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post Oct 19 2007, 06:43 PM
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We see low prices as money saved to spend later on beer
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that's why wal-mart has done so well here :cheers:
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post Oct 19 2007, 06:48 PM
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that's why wal-mart has done so well here  :cheers:
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Im buying shares NOW
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post Oct 19 2007, 06:53 PM
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Im buying shares NOW
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yeah you could buy low and sell high and buy a bottle of Henry K Duff's Private Reserve!
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post Oct 19 2007, 06:54 PM
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yeah you could buy low and sell high and buy a bottle of Henry K Duff's Private Reserve!
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I might just quite a my job and become a full time stock market guy
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post Oct 19 2007, 07:28 PM
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Im buying shares NOW
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Wal-Mart shares paid for my college education. (along with the military) and bought me a new motorcycle. I knew they were going to be huge a long time ago.
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post Oct 19 2007, 07:37 PM
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Wal-Mart shares paid for my college education. (along with the military) and bought me a new motorcycle. I knew they were going to be huge a long time ago.
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Damn well done mate :thumbup:
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