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post Jan 20 2006, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(Vlad @ Jan 20 2006, 11:38 AM)
Human Garbage?
Look I've read this thread and what I can tell, you are nothing but an american patriot. Well good for you. But don't ever talk shit about soldiers of any breed. Because I could list human garbage that was american born and raised till I'm short on breath.

A soldier is one who fights for their country and beliefs. If taking planes and crashing them into the WTC was a mission, then it was preformed with valour and it was successful.

Your entire army is a terrorist organization. You are trained to kill and that's all. Your slogans are "kill kill kill"
You invaded a country under false accusations of weapons of mass destruction and thousands suffer daily from the United States being in Iraq.
The threat of death is just as high (if not higher) with US presence in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Now I'm not here to just bash the US or anything. But I can't just stand by and let someone believe they are right in what they say. Hypocrisy and irony is a very strong trait I notice far too often in Americans.

Iraqi soldiers are just as brave and great as the US army soldiers. Each fights for what they believe in and die for what they follow. Don't ever disrespect another soldier in this thread again or I'll let my tongue lash out on the rampant idiocy you spout.
It's fine to be proud of who you are. But don't ever speak ill of any fighter. Ally or enemy.

Winston Churchill said "when you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite."
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QUOTE(Vlad @ Jan 20 2006, 02:38 PM)
Human Garbage?
Look I've read this thread and what I can tell, you are nothing but an american patriot. Well good for you. But don't ever talk shit about soldiers of any breed. Because I could list human garbage that was american born and raised till I'm short on breath.

A soldier is one who fights for their country and beliefs. If taking planes and crashing them into the WTC was a mission, then it was preformed with valour and it was successful.

Your entire army is a terrorist organization. You are trained to kill and that's all. Your slogans are "kill kill kill"
You invaded a country under false accusations of weapons of mass destruction and thousands suffer daily from the United States being in Iraq.
The threat of death is just as high (if not higher) with US presence in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Now I'm not here to just bash the US or anything. But I can't just stand by and let someone believe they are right in what they say. Hypocrisy and irony is a very strong trait I notice far too often in Americans.

Iraqi soldiers are just as brave and great as the US army soldiers. Each fights for what they believe in and die for what they follow. Don't ever disrespect another soldier in this thread again or I'll let my tongue lash out on the rampant idiocy you spout.
It's fine to be proud of who you are. But don't ever speak ill of any fighter. Ally or enemy.

Winston Churchill said "when you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite."
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I think they are more like a cult than anything. Human garbage fits just fine and I for one am not concerened about any tongue lashing coming from you! Who's the hypocrit? You think you can tell people what they can or cannot call those "soldiers" but you also think everyones entitled to there own opinion. Get a grip!
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post Jan 20 2006, 05:48 PM
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QUOTE(bts34e @ Jan 20 2006, 04:45 PM)
I think they are more like a cult than anything. Human garbage fits just fine and I for one am not concerened about any tongue lashing coming from you! Who's the hypocrit? You think you can tell people what they can or cannot call those "soldiers" but you also think everyones entitled to there own opinion. Get a grip!
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post Jan 20 2006, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE(jrock8 @ Jan 20 2006, 05:48 PM)
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post Jan 20 2006, 06:45 PM
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QUOTE(diane26 @ Jan 20 2006, 01:19 PM)
For the love of god you can back your country and still speak your mind about what you think is wrong. Isnt that what makes america well america??? We can do that. We dont have to agree with the war to support our troops.

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Diane, I wear my uniform proudly everyday and protect your right to speak your mind, that's the American way. Our country is not perfect by any stretch, but I'd rather live no where else in the world than the US. I also love the freedom of expression that we have in this country. That's what gives you the right to show those big beautiful tits of your on here!!! God I love this country!!! 2thumbs.gif
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post Jan 20 2006, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE(afraven @ Jan 20 2006, 03:51 PM)
Diane, I wear my uniform proudly everyday and protect your right to speak your mind, that's the American way. Our country is not perfect by any stretch, but I'd rather live no where else in the world than the US. I also love the freedom of expression that we have in this country. That's what gives you the right to show those big beautiful tits of your on here!!! God I love this country!!!  2thumbs.gif
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I thank you for that like I said I have complete respect for soilders all of them to do what they do, my family is stong military. But just because one does not agree with a war or actions of there leaders does not mean they dont support the men and woman that put there life on the line. As a wise person once said. The only Bush I trust is my own nah.gif

Ok for real no more political talk for me here just wont be the same.
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post Jan 21 2006, 03:22 AM
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QUOTE(bts34e @ Jan 20 2006, 05:45 PM)
I think they are more like a cult than anything. Human garbage fits just fine and I for one am not concerened about any tongue lashing coming from you! Who's the hypocrit? You think you can tell people what they can or cannot call those "soldiers" but you also think everyones entitled to there own opinion. Get a grip!
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Well you are right. You can say anything you wish. But once spoken you are wide open to reply. I can call anyone who claims the Taliban "human garbage" a hypocrite since your own army is comprised of the very same filth as any army.

Must I mention Abu Ghraib for American soldiers?
Must I mention Somalia for my fellow soldiers?
Must I mention the genocide march of Germany?
Must I mention Nemmersdorf and the Russians?
Must I mention Rwanda?

Armies throughout history are filth filled and just as evil as their enemy. There is no saint army of those who do no wrong or evil.
By listing one army as human garbage. You condemn your own army to the same title.

It is not I who needs to get a grip. It's you who needs to see the human beings that armies are comprised of. Just because they look different and fight for a cause you do not believe in does not make them any less human. They are still you in basic image and mind.
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post Jan 21 2006, 05:47 AM
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Ok - here is another way to look at it.

The people that flew planes into the WTC were in fact Humans. The fact that what they did cannot be comprehended by what we call "a sane mind" does not necessarily deny them their human status. Don't like them, or more specifically, their actions, by any means, but at the end of the day they are human.

The thing that has not been said to this point in this thread is the following: What is seen as Evil depends on which side you are on. Thus, what we see as evil would be seen by our enemy as good, and we are evil.

I will try to be careful when I say this next part, for I know that it will stir a shitstorm, and for that, I apologise. But the people that flew planes into the WTC saw it as a means to stop evil. The US and it's allies (Including my own beloved Australia) sent troops into Iraq and Afghanistan to stop an evil. I know it is a far stretch - but what is the difference. Many casualties in all countries were not trained military, for don't forget that the Taliban was not the official military of Afghanistan.

I will stop now, and look forward to your replies. All I ask is that however passionate you are on the subject; please try not to respond with anger in your mind, but rather take the time to think what you say first. Hopefully this will stop the flaming that is starting on this thread.

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post Jan 21 2006, 06:10 AM
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Hey Vlad you off your meds? whos is talking about Iraq?.I made it a point not to bring up that other place because alot of people disagree about whats going on in that place.this thread was about AFGHANISTAN,cant you read the page?maybe if your mother or brother or another familly member was in the world trade center on 9/11/01 and you never saw them again or you went to funerals where they buried your good friendS legs cause thats all they could find or an empty coffin because everything was turned to ash . the thousands of other poor souls who died that day werent soldiers,they were working to support families.Maybe you should hop on a plane to New York and come visit Ground Zero? See what these MURDERERS did to thousands of innocent civilians ,see the hole where two great skyscrapers stood.I think you have your countries mixed up my friend either that or there is something wrong with you.I pray our soldiers wipe out everyone of those animals in AFGHANISTAN.YOU EXPLAIN WHAT IS SO GOOD ABOUT THOSE MURDERERS IN THAT COUNTRY.maybe if you suffered a loss that day you would know what country your talking about?


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post Jan 21 2006, 06:49 PM
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QUOTE(johnny wadd @ Jan 21 2006, 06:10 AM)
Hey Vlad you off your meds? whos is talking about Iraq?.I made it a point not to bring up that other place because alot of people disagree about whats going on in that place.this thread was about AFGHANISTAN,cant you read the page?maybe if your mother or brother or another familly member was in the world trade center on 9/11/01 and you never saw them again or you went to funerals where they buried your good friendS legs cause thats all they could find or an empty coffin because everything was turned to ash . the thousands of other poor souls who died that day werent soldiers,they were working to support families.Maybe you should hop on a plane to New York and come visit Ground Zero? See what these MURDERERS did to thousands of innocent civilians ,see the hole where two great skyscrapers stood.I think you have your countries mixed up my friend either that or there is something wrong with you.I pray our soldiers wipe out everyone of those animals in AFGHANISTAN.YOU EXPLAIN WHAT IS SO GOOD ABOUT THOSE MURDERERS IN THAT COUNTRY.maybe if you suffered a loss that day you would know what country your talking about?
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Do you think Afghanistan is any different from Iraq? Not in the slightest. The US in Afghan land is still an invader. Those people are fighting for what they believe in. Both sides. Calling ones side garbage is a pitiful way to see human beings. War isn't pretty and it's always innocence that usually pays the price. Do you think the collateral damage in Afghan land is worthless just because they are not American?
People are dying more frequently with foreign soldiers there then when no of us were there.
You are trying to list American lives a higher priority. Well that makes you a pretty pathetic person.

You want to talk pain now?
Guess where I work. I am a weapon's technician in the PPCLI forces. You know what I have to walk by every single day at the garrison?
A statue of four soldiers who died from "friendly fire" caused by your armies stupidity and sheer "don't give a damn" attitude.
I knew Corporal Ainsworth Dyer. I didn't know him deeply but he was still a man I saw from time to time and met up with in instances.
Almost every fucking day I walk a memorial to a friend who died because of your stupid war. Don't ever open your cock filled mouth and talk tragedy until you live it.

That was the first time in my life I had ever prayed for someone to be killed horribly. The people I wished dead were your soldiers. Those 2 pilots to date will never receive a drop of sympathy from me. And if no eyes were looking I'd kill them.

I don't care which side wins so long as the needless and innocent deaths cease. And guess what? Your "cause" isn't noble or anything heroic. It's pointless and a stupid act of revenge. Your country are murderers just as much as the Taliban.

I have deep feelings for the war and I hate that people are dying, but death comes in all forms. And when you're buried, nobody gives a shit where you are from.
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QUOTE(bondiguy @ Jan 23 2006, 01:43 AM)
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post Jan 23 2006, 08:31 PM
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QUOTE(johnny wadd @ Jan 23 2006, 04:09 AM)
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and what?
The people there would freak at what is reality (albeit grim) just because they too are american and cannot understand their enemy nor wish to learn to?
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QUOTE(johnny wadd @ Jan 23 2006, 04:09 AM)
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QUOTE(bondiguy @ Jan 24 2006, 01:37 AM)
dude judging by your av pic you are kinda scary so i wouldnt wanna fuck with you! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(johnny wadd @ Jan 24 2006, 01:32 PM)
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QUOTE(johnny wadd @ Jan 24 2006, 01:32 PM)
Anyone who comes to a webpage called rate my mellons just to defend terrorist's is A few french fries short of a happy meal! coco.gif
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I didn't come here just to defend soldiers of all views. This thread came long after my arrival. You are once again in err.

I'm so sorry Johnny that I cannot be an uncouth fascist like you'd so much like me to be. I guess I simply evolved well beyond bigotry and hating what I don't understand. Perhaps one day you will be amongst the civilised.
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QUOTE(johnny wadd @ Jan 24 2006, 10:13 PM)
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Because you're government trained them to kill and gave them the weapons to fight the russian's afghan war. You cannot blame a dog that you taught to attack for biting you.

Everything that has befallen on the US was caused by the US.

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