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post May 13 2006, 12:01 AM
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What are metal horns some of you may ask? They are: index finger and pinkie raised proudly as the sign of the beast, ready for an unholy wave to your favorite demon king. Or... something else??

Many maintain that Ronnie James Dio invented it. He got it from his grandma, who used to flash "the horns" as protection against the evil eye. Or, if you pointed the horns at someone, you were giving the evil eye, according to Grandma Dio. RJD would flash the horns in concert and it took off.

Others claim that Gene Simmons invented it from how his hand was poised on an album cover.

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post May 13 2006, 12:46 AM
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QUOTE(ontippytoes @ May 12 2006, 09:01 PM)
What are metal horns some of you may ask?  They are: index finger and pinkie raised proudly as the sign of the beast, ready for an unholy wave to your favorite demon king.  Or... something else??

Many maintain that Ronnie James Dio invented it.  He got it from his grandma, who used to flash "the horns" as protection against the evil eye.  Or, if you pointed the horns at someone, you were giving the evil eye, according to Grandma Dio.   RJD would flash the horns in concert and it took off.

Others claim that Gene Simmons invented it from how his hand was poised on an album cover.

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I am so not a rock and roll person I dunno, I just know growing up it was the pinkie and thumb and everyone said Shaka Bro at the beach
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post May 13 2006, 12:47 AM
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QUOTE(diane26 @ May 13 2006, 12:46 AM)
I am so not a rock and roll person I dunno, I just know growing up it was the pinkie and thumb and everyone said Shaka Bro at the beach
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LMFAO!!! I never expected anyone to respond. Am I the only metal head here? i know I'm not...
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post May 13 2006, 12:50 AM
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QUOTE(ontippytoes @ May 12 2006, 09:47 PM)
LMFAO!!!  I never expected anyone to respond.  Am I the only metal head here?  i know I'm not...
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I think I am gonna try to get addicted to this play station game I just put in cause I feel like I don't have enough addictions. LOL
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post May 13 2006, 12:52 AM
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QUOTE(diane26 @ May 13 2006, 12:50 AM)
confused-smiley-013.gif  confused-smiley-013.gif  I am a hip hop girl LOL
I think I am gonna try to get addicted to this play station game I just put in cause I feel like I don't have enough addictions. LOL
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post May 13 2006, 12:55 AM
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QUOTE(ontippytoes @ May 12 2006, 09:52 PM)
One can never have enough addictions... LOL
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post May 13 2006, 12:57 AM
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QUOTE(diane26 @ May 13 2006, 12:55 AM)
You telling me, speaking of which you done with my bong yet??? tongue.gif
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post May 13 2006, 01:02 AM
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QUOTE(ontippytoes @ May 12 2006, 09:57 PM)
Oh shit...I don't remember where I set it down.
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Should be next to my needle you borrowed too??
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post May 13 2006, 01:08 AM
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QUOTE(diane26 @ May 13 2006, 01:02 AM)
Should be next to my needle you borrowed too??
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post May 13 2006, 01:11 AM
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post May 13 2006, 01:20 AM
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QUOTE(diane26 @ May 13 2006, 01:11 AM)
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post May 13 2006, 02:05 AM
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QUOTE(ontippytoes @ May 13 2006, 01:20 AM)
Now you're forgetting?  We need a babysitter.
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The sign comes from the Hawaiian surf and popular culture. Ususally. the hand with the thumb and pinkie finger raised are wiggled off to one's side. The saying that went with it originally was "shaka buddha," often also followed by "Hang loose." When I was stationed in Hi in late 1974 - late 1976, it was completely ingrained in the popular culture. The salute (or wave) is now just called the Shaka. It even made the news recently when some enlisted Hawaiian serviceman forgot and "saluted" an officer this way. The officer got all bent out of shape and brought the dude up on charges. ( Apparently the officer wasn't from Hi. laughing-smiley-017.gif )
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http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/.../508120364.html

The "Shaka Bro" is just a modification of the original that has entered the beach culture. laughing-smiley-017.gif That heavy metal bands have picked it up and wave to the audiences with it, doesn't surprise me. It has nothing to do with evil or the devil's horns. It was original used as a friendship greating...allmost a blessing.

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post May 13 2006, 03:39 AM
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QUOTE(evade20 @ May 12 2006, 11:05 PM)
The sign comes from the Hawaiian surf and popular culture.  Ususally. the hand with the thumb and pinkie finger raised are wiggled off to one's side.  The saying that went with it originally was "shaka buddha,"  often also followed by "Hang loose."  When I was stationed in Hi in late 1974 - late 1976, it was completely ingrained in the popular culture.  The salute (or wave) is now just called the Shaka.  It even made the news recently when some enlisted Hawaiian serviceman forgot and "saluted" an officer this way.  The officer got all bent out of shape and brought the dude up on charges. ( Apparently the officer wasn't from Hi. laughing-smiley-017.gif )
Click on the link and read about it.
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/.../508120364.html

The "Shaka Bro" is just a modification of the original that has entered the beach culture. laughing-smiley-017.gif   That heavy metal bands have picked it up and wave to the audiences with it, doesn't surprise me.  It has nothing to do with evil or the devil's horns.  It was original used as a friendship greating...allmost a blessing.

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Evade she is talking about the INDEX and Pinky up and the ring and middle finger down which is commen in Metal scenes.
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post May 13 2006, 04:38 AM
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QUOTE(diane26 @ May 13 2006, 03:39 AM)
Evade she is talking about the INDEX and Pinky up and the ring and middle finger down which is commen in Metal scenes.
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I only read your decription of the sign...

Are you taking about the gesture that Johnny Cash is doing in gnappster's avatar? coz.gif
That sure as hell wasn't invented by anyone's grandma. laughing-smiley-017.gif laughing-smiley-017.gif


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post May 13 2006, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(evade20 @ May 13 2006, 04:38 AM)
Looks like I get the

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I only read your decription of the sign...

Are you taking about the gesture that Johnny Cash is doing in gnappster's avatar? coz.gif
That sure as hell wasn't invented by anyone's grandma. laughing-smiley-017.gif  laughing-smiley-017.gif
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No, that's flipping off, not horns.
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post May 13 2006, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE(evade20 @ May 13 2006, 04:38 AM)
Looks like I get the

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I only read your decription of the sign...

Are you taking about the gesture that Johnny Cash is doing in gnappster's avatar? coz.gif
That sure as hell wasn't invented by anyone's grandma. laughing-smiley-017.gif  laughing-smiley-017.gif
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Quit staring and your naken man sculpture and pay attention there, mister. index and pinky fingers!!! Picture beavis and butthead rockin' on or someone screaming free bird when drunk at a wedding.


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we always did it as a rock on thing , I also think maybe Dio did it first but , in my rock days kiss was fading fast , but as I sit here listening and watching a Def leapard video I picked up last night , I do think your right DIO Rocks On my dear
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QUOTE(ontippytoes @ May 13 2006, 11:21 AM)
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Show me a picture... of you...I mean horns. laughing-smiley-017.gif


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QUOTE(Bobaloo @ May 13 2006, 11:57 AM)
Quit staring and your naken man sculpture and pay attention there, mister.  index and pinky fingers!!!  Picture beavis and butthead rockin' on or someone screaming free bird when drunk at a wedding.
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You're the one with your head up your ass (avatar). laughing-smiley-014.gif


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post May 15 2006, 12:17 PM
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You're the one with your head up your ass (avatar). laughing-smiley-014.gif
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Even AF's kid knew what the hell she was talking about.

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QUOTE(Bobaloo @ May 15 2006, 12:17 PM)
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Oh well, that will teach me to try post anything when I'm on the graveyard shift.... laughing-smiley-017.gif laughing-smiley-017.gif I didn't read Tippy's post clearly enough. smilio12.gif


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QUOTE(Bobaloo @ May 15 2006, 03:04 PM)
Even AF's kid knew what the hell she was talking about.

http://www.ratemymelons.com/chat/index.php...indpost&p=93514
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laughing-smiley-017.gif Thanks, Bobaloo, That ones been around since before rock and roll, too, let alone heavy metal. It allso wasn't invented by anyone's grandmother. It use to mean "kiss may ass." ph34r.gif


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Oh well, that will teach me to try post anything when I'm on the graveyard shift.... laughing-smiley-017.gif  laughing-smiley-017.gif  I didn't read Tippy's post clearly enough. smilio12.gif
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Hey, that's cool. I was just razzing you a little bit. I do the same thing and I don't ever work the graveyard shift.

I have met a few girls in the graveyard, though. Wish they weren't always so cold.


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I have met a few girls in the graveyard, though.  Wish they weren't always so cold.
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i always thought that it was cuz of that gene simmons album cover. then agen its not something i've read into, nor something i plan on reading into.

i'm not a fan of the devil horns i've always seen it as a bit cheesy. cept at a slipknot gig. i'll knock out a few devil horns for them nails bastards. god i love slipknot live. any other band i see and its a raised fist that will generally just do it for me. maybe i'll throw a few shapes as well in the pit. who knows. depends on the band.

are there many fans of metal on here? i have to say i'm not really a fan of old metal like maiden and shit like that. cant be doing with it to be honest. give me some of that new age hardcore/metalcore anyday 2thumbs.gif
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QUOTE(he_is_legend @ May 15 2006, 07:53 PM)
i always thought that it was cuz of that gene simmons album cover. then agen its not something i've read into, nor something i plan on reading into.

i'm not a fan of the devil horns i've always seen it as a bit cheesy. cept at a slipknot gig. i'll knock out a few devil horns for them nails bastards. god i love slipknot live. any other band i see and its a raised fist that will generally just do it for me. maybe i'll throw a few shapes as well in the pit. who knows. depends on the band.

are there many fans of metal on here? i have to say i'm not really a fan of old metal like maiden and shit like that. cant be doing with it to be honest. give me some of that new age hardcore/metalcore anyday 2thumbs.gif
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