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allmebaby
post Apr 16 2007, 04:17 PM
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Man this is a fucked up tragedy. 32 people dead and more injured.
What is wrong with people today?
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post Apr 18 2007, 01:16 PM
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You Don't Know Me, and I Have a Gun!

You don't know me, or maybe you just don't know that you do. I am your neighbor, doctor, clergyman, nurse or just another nameless, faceless stranger in the crowd. I have a state authorized, court issued permit to carry a concealed handgun. I do so whenever possible.

Though you don't know me, there are a few things you should know about me.

In my case, I was fingerprinted by the local police for an FBI criminal background check. Before that, I had to pass state and local background checks. I had to present evidence to the court of approved training in firearms laws, safety and marksmanship before my application would even be accepted.

I am not a felon, junkie, drug dealer, stalker or even a shoplifter since any number of indiscretions including alcohol or other drug abuse or even simple assault or a restraining order would disqualify me from holding a permit.

My classroom training covered when it is appropriate and legal to even indicate that I have a gun, much less display it or actually use deadly force.

Doing so in any circumstance, under which I am not in immediate fear for my life or the life of another, would mean more than the loss of my permit. Most likely, I would also be charged with brandishing a weapon, disorderly conduct and/or assault.

If it was determined that my use of deadly force was not to protect a life in immediate danger, I would probably be charged with second-degree murder or first-degree manslaughter. On top of these, I would also face civil liability.

Like most people who legally carry concealed handguns, I practice regularly at a range. I am well aware of the laws and regulations affecting me. My fellow permit holders and I are generally more well trained and practiced than many law enforcement officers.

I am not a non-resident alien. I am a good citizen, and I vote.

I am aware of the responsibility I bear, and I will walk or run away rather than risk confrontation. I will retreat as fast and as far as possible. I always avoid conflict. I know that should a situation escalate, I could be identified as the instigator and face losing my right to carry, or worse.

Should the need arise, however, I will act swiftly, intelligently and decisively to protect my life and the lives of those around me

Are you still afraid of me?

In my home state of Virginia, not one permit holder has been convicted of a violent gun crime despite more than 110,000 issued permits. Throughout the entire United States, no police officer has been injured by a person with a legal handgun. A number have, however, been assisted and even rescued by armed, law abiding citizens.

You should feel a degree of comfort knowing that there may be someone nearby with means, motive and training to possibly save your life, or that of those around you.

Criminals, on the other hand, should feel fear. They never know if their next intended victim may armed, trained, and ready to effectively defend themselves.

If you feel safer patronizing establishments with a NO GUNS ALLOWED policy, please keep in mind that the criminals don't obey the signs or the laws. That is why we call them criminals.

Criminals know that the law-abiding customers of that establishment are easy prey, and will have little to no fear of the consequences of their actions. The hallways and parking lots of these establishments might just as well post a sign saying...



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post Apr 18 2007, 02:38 PM
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allmebaby   Va Tech Shooting   Apr 16 2007, 04:17 PM
evade20   Very sad! :( The guy has to be a real sick...   Apr 16 2007, 04:19 PM
allmebaby   I just can't understand why it is not safe to ...   Apr 16 2007, 04:23 PM
davy   also the shooting started at a dorm building the...   Apr 16 2007, 04:26 PM
SKULLZ0MBIE   no comments   Apr 16 2007, 04:43 PM
allmebaby   Good question. Prayers to them all.   Apr 16 2007, 04:32 PM
Boobluver2   I don't understand the need to have guns lik...   Apr 16 2007, 04:38 PM
SKULLZ0MBIE   no comments   Apr 18 2007, 11:50 AM
Gnappster   some messed up shit to say the least. it's one...   Apr 16 2007, 04:59 PM
Macdonald   It's especially sad that there was a two hou...   Apr 16 2007, 05:44 PM
Puppet   Its taking the a grouping of people diverse in tho...   Apr 16 2007, 08:59 PM
baby21   How sad :( I can't even imagine going through...   Apr 17 2007, 03:17 AM
COMEDYMAN   I bet there will be tightened security on all camp...   Apr 17 2007, 09:38 AM
SKULLZ0MBIE   no comments   Apr 17 2007, 12:17 PM
UncleBuck   What a sad stupid act, and from what I gather from...   Apr 17 2007, 03:14 PM
ddd35   My prayers to the friends, familys and loved ones ...   Apr 17 2007, 04:15 PM
bondiguy   It is a tragedy of monumental proportions that i...   Apr 18 2007, 12:32 AM
BRIGHTEYES   I AGREE AND I FOR ONE SUPPORT THIS THIS HITS TO ...   Apr 18 2007, 12:38 AM
bondiguy   I dont know what state Virginia Tech is in but I h...   Apr 18 2007, 12:41 AM
baby21   I guess Virginia is one of the only states left ...   Apr 18 2007, 02:11 AM
bondiguy   Amen to that   Apr 18 2007, 02:13 AM
SKULLZ0MBIE   no comments   Apr 18 2007, 10:19 AM
ddd35   I have owned about 25 guns for the last 20 yrs...   Apr 18 2007, 11:23 AM
SKULLZ0MBIE   no comments   Apr 18 2007, 11:37 AM
SKULLZ0MBIE   no comments   Apr 18 2007, 02:38 PM
baby21   :blink: ehhh :( I don't want to get into pol...   Apr 18 2007, 02:51 PM
BRIGHTEYES   I DONT KNOW IF ANY OF YOU ARE FROM THE WEST COAST ...   Apr 18 2007, 03:01 PM
baby21   :( uggh.. that's the scary part.   Apr 18 2007, 03:03 PM
BRIGHTEYES   MY SCHOOL WAS OPEN CAMPUS AND WAS THE SAFEST PLACE...   Apr 18 2007, 03:08 PM
baby21   Yeah.. I went to High School at I believe the b...   Apr 18 2007, 03:10 PM
BRIGHTEYES   GIRL I GRADUATED IN 1984 WHAT R U TALKING ABOUT A ...   Apr 18 2007, 03:18 PM
SKULLZ0MBIE   no comments   Apr 18 2007, 06:10 PM
CaramelTits   Sad just isnt the word for this tragedy!!,...   Apr 18 2007, 09:11 PM
bondiguy   In your case I can understand why you would own ...   Apr 19 2007, 01:01 AM
SKULLZ0MBIE   no comments   Apr 19 2007, 01:52 AM
bondiguy   Australia is probably the most free country in t...   Apr 19 2007, 02:01 AM
SKULLZ0MBIE   no comments   Apr 19 2007, 02:13 AM
bondiguy   What about the columbine massacre? The Amish kids ...   Apr 19 2007, 02:15 AM
SKULLZ0MBIE   no comments   Apr 19 2007, 02:26 AM
bondiguy   I didnt ask you for the motive, I asked you whet...   Apr 19 2007, 02:45 AM
SKULLZ0MBIE   no comments   Apr 19 2007, 02:56 AM
Christof   Firstly what has happened sucks and im truly sorry...   Apr 19 2007, 03:10 AM
SKULLZ0MBIE   no comments   Apr 19 2007, 03:31 AM
Something_Creative   Where did you get these stats and the other one ...   Apr 21 2007, 10:55 PM
bondiguy   The same place faeces exit his body!   Apr 22 2007, 11:18 PM
Something_Creative   Must be :crazydude:   Apr 24 2007, 04:54 AM
bondiguy   racist or not, they were still Americans. Also, ...   Apr 19 2007, 04:29 AM
SKULLZ0MBIE   no comments   Apr 19 2007, 10:11 AM
bondiguy   I refer the jury to exhibit A   Apr 20 2007, 12:37 AM
SKULLZ0MBIE   no comments   Apr 20 2007, 01:23 AM
closeup   Why, what happened in Vermont? I've been arou...   Apr 20 2007, 01:13 PM
UncleBuck   Well said :cheers:   Apr 20 2007, 02:08 PM
BRIGHTEYES   I think Bondiguy & Skullzombie both made good ...   Apr 20 2007, 08:29 AM
baby21   :( You think kids would learn.. my brother is at ...   Apr 20 2007, 02:26 PM
closeup   I live right next to a university, they had like ...   Apr 20 2007, 02:31 PM
BRIGHTEYES   Edit.... PM for stuff like this .... CM   Apr 20 2007, 11:03 PM
bondiguy   I gotta say you and I agree on most things but m...   Apr 20 2007, 08:28 PM
closeup   If I gave the impression that I thought college ki...   Apr 20 2007, 11:00 PM
bondiguy   Closeup, unlike skullzombie you provide a compel...   Apr 20 2007, 11:16 PM
closeup   Hey, I agree. I'd be completely comfortable i...   Apr 21 2007, 12:14 AM
bondiguy   touche, but even you will agree that the gun is ...   Apr 21 2007, 12:26 AM
closeup   No doubt, guns are defiantly owned and used by ci...   Apr 21 2007, 12:54 AM
bondiguy   The same planet but a different world   Apr 21 2007, 01:06 AM
ddd35   the students were asking the news media to leave t...   Apr 24 2007, 03:34 PM
bondiguy   Yeah, gun laws in the USA are just fine... Child ...   May 17 2007, 01:03 AM
SKULLZ0MBIE   no comments   May 17 2007, 01:53 AM
bondiguy   Well maybe one day you will get shot :thumbup:   May 17 2007, 02:06 AM
SKULLZ0MBIE   no comments   May 17 2007, 02:40 AM
bondiguy   :ph34r: http://www.impawards.com/1998/posters...   May 17 2007, 04:05 AM
SKULLZ0MBIE   no comments   May 17 2007, 10:51 AM
closeup   Do you think alcohol should be banned in Australi...   May 17 2007, 02:26 PM
Gnappster   maybe most of those hits are "alcohol relat...   May 17 2007, 03:00 PM
SKULLZ0MBIE   no comments   May 17 2007, 04:33 PM
Gnappster   "you're fuckin retarded" -quote by ...   May 17 2007, 06:59 PM
ddd35   that one will go down in history   May 17 2007, 07:36 PM
SKULLZ0MBIE   no comments   May 18 2007, 10:16 AM
closeup   I can agree, but only so far. Where I have a prob...   May 17 2007, 11:09 PM
Gnappster   Good point, can't just make up laws to suit ...   May 18 2007, 12:54 PM
ddd35   yes at age 18 and below   May 18 2007, 01:21 PM
Gnappster   :huh: http://www.csun.edu/~dgw61315/fall...   May 17 2007, 11:41 AM
bondiguy   That would be helpful if he could read. Close...   May 18 2007, 12:20 AM
ddd35   I wont debate , here the pig aurgument is valid ...   May 18 2007, 09:46 AM
closeup   Underage liquor sales are a real problem in Portla...   May 18 2007, 04:31 PM
bondiguy   When you say underage sales of alcohol are bad i...   May 18 2007, 06:46 PM
ddd35   to each there own , thats what makes the world...   May 19 2007, 08:40 AM
bondiguy   as usual Americans only listen to the part of th...   May 21 2007, 01:55 AM
ddd35   according to the news global warming is effec...   May 21 2007, 06:56 AM
bondiguy   Please tell me what global warming has to do wit...   May 21 2007, 07:05 AM
ddd35   LOl gotta love it global warming is just that...   May 21 2007, 07:11 AM
ddd35   http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Gunman...96013...   May 21 2007, 07:13 AM
ddd35   http://comment.independent.co.uk/leading_a...icle2...   May 21 2007, 09:35 AM
closeup   The lake we get our water from is 29,000 acres and...   May 21 2007, 11:48 PM
jrock8   note to self: pee on the surface of sebage lake...   May 22 2007, 12:07 AM
closeup   If anyone's Poland Spring water tastes funny,...   May 22 2007, 11:16 AM
ddd35   damn the tooth fairy would have paid him more ...   May 22 2007, 02:02 PM
bondiguy   Explain why this year in the Sydney Metro area w...   May 22 2007, 01:44 AM
bondiguy   Here is actually a sensible spin on the debate if ...   May 22 2007, 04:43 AM
ddd35   heaven forbid somebody read the sidney morning ...   May 22 2007, 07:26 AM
Gnappster   HEY-OH! :lol: Canada has so much water...   May 22 2007, 12:47 PM
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