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post Sep 4 2006, 02:58 AM
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post Sep 8 2006, 08:09 PM
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Bondi, I never meant use it in a macabre generate high ratings way, I meant that it if it were to be shown, it should be in a responsible manner, in an educational manner.

And yes, if it had happened to be my family member and they had previously expressed a desire that footage of their death be used to responsibly educate people about the dangers of what they did with their life, then I would be willing to uphold their wishes and ensure that the footage was used in such a manner. That's not to say that it should be shown right now whilst interest in his death is still very high, that would be exploiting the footage, which is not what it should be used for.

There is a vast difference between what your average tabloid media editor and a responsible documentary maker would use the footage for, and it should be used for education, not exploitatively, as we frequently see with all news footage these days.
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post Sep 8 2006, 09:47 PM
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QUOTE(denyse @ Sep 8 2006, 08:09 PM)
Bondi, I never meant use it in a macabre generate high ratings way, I meant that it if it were to be shown, it should be in a responsible manner, in an educational manner.

And yes, if it had happened to be my family member and they had previously expressed a desire that footage of their death be used to responsibly educate people about the dangers of what they did with their life, then I would be willing to uphold their wishes and ensure that the footage was used in such a manner.  That's not to say that it should be shown right now whilst interest in his death is still very high, that would be exploiting the footage, which is not what it should be used for.

There is a vast difference between what your average tabloid media editor and a responsible documentary maker would use the footage for, and it should be used for education, not exploitatively, as we frequently see with all news footage these days.
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Agreed!

Also BigMichael I saw an interview with his manager who's production company own EVERY second of footage shot by and for Irwin and he has said the footage will never make the light of day. SO without some dramatic change of heart I dare say it's case closed


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post Sep 9 2006, 02:02 PM
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QUOTE(bondiguy @ Sep 8 2006, 09:47 PM)
Agreed!

Also BigMichael I saw an interview with his manager who's production company own EVERY second of footage shot by and for Irwin and he has said the footage will never make the light of day. SO without some dramatic change of heart I dare say it's case closed
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I dont follow ausiie news at all , but Im guessing if the family decides that it should be shown , could it be a matter for the courts to decide ? I guarantee here in the states ther would be about 6 lawyers lining up to take on either side of this case and there would be millions either spent or won before the case was done , and then some tabloid would send in a plant and steel the tape anyway and pirate it . Its not a matter of whats right and whats wrong its about the Money here in the state anyway ...
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post Sep 11 2006, 03:10 AM
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QUOTE(ddd35 @ Sep 9 2006, 02:02 PM)
I dont follow ausiie news   at all , but  Im guessing if the family decides that it should  be shown , could it be a matter for the courts to decide  ? I guarantee  here in the states  ther would be about 6 lawyers lining up  to take on either side of this case  and there would be millions either spent or won  before the case was done  , and then some tabloid would send in a plant  and steel the tape anyway and pirate it  .  Its not a matter of whats right and whats wrong  its about the Money here in the state anyway  ...
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They family could battle in the courts and waste as much money as they wanted to (although highly unlikely) but his manager is the sole rights holder to all his footage... no two ways about it, end of story! He would have to green light the footage release

It is like Nirvana. Dave and Krist fucking played in the band but because of Cunteny Love who is the majority owner of all things Nirvana they can not release shit without her blessing.... and she is a physco hose beast


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QUOTE(bondiguy @ Sep 11 2006, 03:10 AM)
They family could battle in the courts and waste as much money as they wanted to (although highly unlikely) but his manager is the sole rights holder to all his footage... no two ways about it, end of story! He would have to green light the footage release

It is like Nirvana. Dave and Krist fucking played in the band but because of Cunteny Love who is the majority owner of all things Nirvana they can not release shit without her blessing.... and she is a physco hose beast
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The problem I see at least in the states , the tabloid will offer MIllions for that kind of reality footage , it sells , fact is its just like when Princess D died in a car crash the photgrapher that caught that on tape was a instant millionare . Its a sad state of things in the world when it comes to that , but the fact is people like to see the blood and guts and gorry things in life , Not saying its right but its the state of things ... smile.gif
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post Sep 15 2006, 12:42 AM
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QUOTE(ddd35 @ Sep 14 2006, 11:52 AM)
The problem  I see  at least in the states , the tabloid will offer  MIllions  for that kind of reality  footage , it sells , fact is its just like when Princess D  died in a car crash  the  photgrapher that caught that on tape was a instant millionare . Its a sad state  of things  in the world when it comes to that , but the fact is people like to see the blood and guts and gorry things in life , Not saying its right  but its the state of things  ...   smile.gif
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Mate I know, we are an ever increasing society of voyeurs. The point of difference is that (sorry of generalising) but Aussies aren't as greedy as Americans. Steve's manager was a close personal friend and I dont think he wil "sell out" unless steve's family urge him to release the footage

The Doco Steve was shooting is being finished off by his team and will no doubt be released sans the death footage


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QUOTE(bondiguy @ Sep 15 2006, 12:42 AM)
Mate I know, we are an ever increasing society of voyeurs. The point of difference is that (sorry of generalising) but Aussies aren't as greedy as Americans. Steve's manager was a close personal friend and I dont think he wil "sell out" unless steve's family urge him to release the footage

The Doco Steve was shooting is being finished off by his team and will no doubt be released sans the death footage
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thats cool , never been to your great country , and I mean that in the sense that it was said , I visited canada a few yrs ago and the people I met there , I firmly believe they have that same mentality , its just not that way here in the states , its sad really here its who dies with the most toys wins , Why ? I have no idea but there is great aurguments over money here .. coco.gif
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lalala   Bound To Happen Sometime.   Sep 4 2006, 02:58 AM
penelope   Feel very sorry for him and his family.   Sep 4 2006, 03:30 AM
ddd35   WOW my son will be devestated , he wathched him...   Sep 4 2006, 10:29 AM
closeup   Steve Irwin died doing what he loved. It's ver...   Sep 4 2006, 10:58 PM
Narazbad   i just heard about that not even an hour ago....th...   Sep 5 2006, 02:44 AM
Gnappster   It's a shitty deal, but at least he was doing ...   Sep 5 2006, 12:18 PM
Lynette   [color=purple]A very sad day for all the various a...   Sep 5 2006, 07:14 PM
lalala   im not talking about stingrays, im talking about w...   Sep 6 2006, 01:56 AM
bondiguy   From an Australian point of view the whole "i...   Sep 6 2006, 01:53 AM
jrock8   so i was going to look up some random australian...   Sep 6 2006, 01:58 AM
bondiguy   Really???? :blink:   Sep 6 2006, 02:03 AM
lalala   i didnt know that either does jackie chan know ...   Sep 6 2006, 02:05 AM
jrock8   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Australians ...   Sep 6 2006, 02:06 AM
bondiguy   I Love Lucy??? :blink: :P I'll have to lo...   Sep 6 2006, 02:09 AM
ddd35   Bondi Im sure it is a sad day for his family and f...   Sep 6 2006, 06:39 AM
Gnappster   I thought he often said ha had NEVER been bitten ...   Sep 6 2006, 12:04 PM
bondiguy   BINGO!   Sep 7 2006, 01:11 AM
lalala   i recommend everyone watch this: http://www.youtu...   Sep 7 2006, 06:08 AM
COMEDYMAN   Hate that he passed... but i agree he did die what...   Sep 7 2006, 08:21 AM
denyse   Very sad that he's gone at such a young age, a...   Sep 7 2006, 08:43 AM
bondiguy   A touching clip that encompasulates everything I...   Sep 7 2006, 11:33 PM
lalala   actually, steve was quoted to have saying that ...   Sep 8 2006, 04:10 AM
bondiguy   What he did say was that if he was filming a Doc...   Sep 8 2006, 05:44 PM
lalala   i agree   Sep 8 2006, 06:22 PM
BigMichael   In the sun newspaper it said the footage would nev...   Sep 8 2006, 07:14 PM
bondiguy   I had not read yet that his family ask for the f...   Sep 8 2006, 07:20 PM
BigMichael   dont really know, i would have thought it would be...   Sep 8 2006, 07:43 PM
bondiguy   Likewise 3d, I have met some great Americans... he...   Sep 15 2006, 05:36 PM


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